0:02 I know you're all going to be thrilled. 0:03 Yet another wonderful, rich, brilliant, 0:06 inspiring conversation with Dr. David 0:08 Clemens. Wonderful to see you, David, as 0:10 always. Thank you for being here in your 0:12 very busy schedule, making the time for 0:14 us. So, um, yeah, I think, uh, we've had 0:17 about six or seven conversations now. 0:19 I'll put the links for all those 0:20 conversations below. Um, but David was 0:23 working at a very high level in 0:24 mainstream academia. He was a 0:26 theoretical physicist, but he's now 0:28 working as an expert in in living energy 0:31 systems. And I think very many of you 0:33 are familiar with his work. He's got a 0:34 wonderful Patreon group. You can join 0:36 for free. Put the link for that below. 0:38 And he has some really lifechanging um 0:42 live streams and meditations that are 0:44 highly recommended. So, David, great to 0:46 be in conversation with you again. 0:49 >> Yeah, thank you Pam and thank you for 0:51 having me back. As always, I say it 0:53 every time, but I genuinely mean it. I 0:55 love these conversations with you. We 0:56 get through some really cool topics and 0:59 uh yeah, I just it's awesome to chat 1:01 with you and all the work that you do 1:02 and thank you so much and yeah, hello to 1:04 everyone listening. 1:06 >> Wonderful. So, off we off we go. So much 1:09 I want to ask you about because it's 1:11 [laughter] 1:11 such a powerful time. My goodness. So, 1:14 now you you you and your team have been 1:17 incredibly accurate about these waves of 1:19 evolutionary energy coming in. I 1:21 remember that you you talked about 1:23 December the 4th uh last year and you 1:26 didn't realize that was actually on a 1:28 very powerful full moon full moon in 1:30 Gemini and the sun was actually conjunct 1:33 um something in space a sort of 1:36 gravitational anomaly that I'm sure 1:38 you're very familiar with called the 1:39 great attractor that's like cosmic 1:42 vacuum cleaner. So the sun was right 1:43 there and and many many people not only 1:45 in your community but it was all across 1:47 social media felt that big wave of 1:49 energy on the 4th of December and then 1:52 we've had a series through this year and 1:54 I know in particular you highlighted 1:56 late June early July that there was 1:58 going to be a big wave coming in and 2:00 again because you're not an astrologer 2:02 you didn't know that that was leading to 2:04 a really unique configuration that every 2:07 astrologer was talking about this that's 2:09 like a kind of crucible of creation I 2:12 want to call it a seeding point for a 2:14 higher level of evolution for humanity. 2:18 Super and that was just the beginning 2:20 point 2:21 >> for all the upsteps that humanity is 2:23 going to take from that and that was 2:25 exact in July. So again spot on for the 2:29 the energy surging through. So what do 2:33 you now see? I'm sure you see more waves 2:35 of evolutionary energy coming in and can 2:38 you talk about those? And um 2:40 >> yeah, 2:40 >> I know it's it's it very much works in 2:43 symbiosis with humanity's consciousness. 2:45 So when humanity's consciousness is 2:47 ready, more waves come in. [laughter] 2:51 >> Very aware of that. You know, it's a 2:52 it's it's a two-way system. But anything 2:54 you can share with us about those waves 2:57 helpful for people. 2:58 >> Sure. And my higher self, feel free to 3:00 jump in whenever you wish to. Um so yeah 3:03 on this on this subject it's interesting 3:05 because my teams they and I was a bit 3:07 surprised by that because they don't 3:09 give predictions about things and the 3:11 one of the main conceptual reasons for 3:13 that is is because so much is in flux 3:15 because this is a free will planet and 3:18 much depends on the decision making on 3:20 in every single moment of people making 3:23 decisions to take this way this way or 3:25 whatever. So it's very fluid usually but 3:29 these particular ways because they're 3:31 coming externally 3:33 and there is a a certain amount uh of 3:35 this energy which has a reflection upon 3:38 where people are what decisions they've 3:40 made and are they ready but there's also 3:42 a portion of this which is just going to 3:44 go anyway because it's it's a sort of go 3:46 time. So there is a a mix a mixed bag in 3:49 there. 3:51 Um but yeah, so when they made those 3:54 predictions, I thought, "Oh, that's 3:55 interesting." That's kind of one of the 3:56 first kind of this is going to happen 3:58 then kind of thing that they they came 4:00 through with. Um because I thoroughly 4:02 understand how fluid, you know, the 4:04 future potentials can be. Um and so 4:07 yeah, they were I mean on that that when 4:09 I woke up in on the early hours of the 4:12 morning on that 4th of December, my 4:14 goodness, my whole body was just just 4:17 alive with energy as I woke my wife. I 4:20 said, "Do you feel that? What the heck?" 4:22 And she's like, "Wow, yeah, I feel that, 4:23 too." So, it was crazy. Um, but yeah, 4:27 there's a sequence, another sequence 4:28 coming through. Um, it's already begun 4:31 very gently, and it's going to start to 4:33 tail up and then sort of come down 4:35 again. Um, and these waves are designed 4:39 as deep dredges, you know, they're 4:41 really designed to turf things up. Now, 4:44 I can feel the teams of my higher self 4:46 uh right here that they'd like to give a 4:48 little bit of a 4:49 sort of a an enclave sort of summary to 4:52 this kind of thing. Um, and what they're 4:55 saying is that just to they're saying, 4:57 "Dear humanity, just be aware that this 4:59 is designed to dredge up very very deep 5:01 things, you know, things that you 5:04 weren't even aware that we're dwelling 5:05 down in your depths of your unconscious 5:08 or the the the place that they've often 5:11 given me the intuitive feel that it's 5:13 the pitter where we throw everything 5:15 down we don't want to face. 5:18 And so, uh, those people who have 5:20 cultivated sort of a push down or a sort 5:23 of personality over the top of that 5:25 might find it a little tricky in places 5:27 because that's going to push up as you 5:29 try to push down. So, they're saying the 5:32 to give that as an example, they're 5:34 saying what they really would ask people 5:36 to do is relax. Just relax the 5:38 personality, relax the grip, relax the 5:41 fightingness, all the kind of I'm ready 5:44 for this. They're saying that's really 5:46 the opposite direction [laughter] that 5:48 you know they would advise you going. 5:51 They're saying if you can be like water 5:53 in a way so that you know a rock may 5:57 come come crashing up to you but you're 5:58 just going to gently go around it and 6:00 move on and be on your way. You know 6:02 they're saying the fluidity um and 6:04 that's one of the issues they're saying 6:06 with human consciousness is the rigidity 6:08 and the grip to stay in the same lane. 6:11 basically such an important uh aspect 6:14 and they're saying that's what causes 6:16 people so much people a lot of 6:18 aggravation or upset because they 6:21 they're adamant they want it's like well 6:22 no the energy is leaving so that you can 6:24 change direction. So if you it's like if 6:27 you're on a highway when you come to a 6:29 split you know you're going that way and 6:31 it's like no you really should be going 6:33 this way you [laughter] know like you're 6:35 struggling in the middle and suddenly 6:36 you end up hitting this the split you 6:39 know division boundary [laughter] 6:42 and uh so that's they're kind of 6:44 laughing a bit sort of like that happens 6:47 quite often because the the personality 6:49 thinks it should be going one way when 6:52 the actual true core energy of the being 6:54 is actually saying no you're evil 6:55 evolution is is actually your your 6:57 energy flows are in this direction. So, 7:00 uh and so they're saying the more fluid, 7:02 the more relaxed you can be with your 7:03 personality. And they're saying you 7:05 might notice at the moment a lot more 7:07 people are getting fighty and flighty. 7:09 You know, they're getting quick quick to 7:11 trigger, quick to react. And they're 7:13 saying this is very much akin to what 7:15 they're saying now. It's the personality 7:17 kicking up its its its feet and you 7:20 know, and putting on its part, so to 7:22 speak. Um but they're saying um they say 7:24 this message in the hope that people 7:26 will recognize it as it happens and just 7:29 okay no no no no just just relax you 7:31 know there's no fight or flight there's 7:33 no aggravation nothing like like that 7:35 here just relax just allow this to 7:38 unfold and they're saying another key 7:40 point here is to for humanity to 7:41 understand is you're you're letting go 7:44 of the paradigm of control of 7:46 self-control 7:48 you know living in the flow of your core 7:50 intelligence is just a a galaxy apart 7:55 from what we've been used to being 7:57 living in which is personality control 7:59 grip planning. Yes, I have a very tight 8:01 hole in my life. I know where 8:02 everything's going. D it's all in its 8:04 compartments. All great. And I say 8:07 that's the old energy. That's how 8:08 humanity has lived in the old way of 8:10 doing things, but no more. That's 8:12 changing. And they're saying we're in 8:14 the changeover phase now. Quite rapidly 8:16 moving. And they're saying as they see 8:18 it at the moment um there's uh quite a 8:21 sizable amount of people having 8:23 difficulty in making the transition 8:24 because their personalities are kicking 8:26 up and you know wanting to try and move 8:29 everything back the way it was and and 8:30 re recollect the old you know I have 8:33 everything in place kind of thing and it 8:35 they're saying it can be in a myriad of 8:37 ways in in different aspects of their 8:39 lives. Um and they're saying again just 8:43 simple breathing particularly with the 8:45 emotions that come up with this the 8:46 sensations the energies and just you can 8:49 use your out breath to your inb breath 8:51 to sort of pull them up and your out 8:52 breath to pump them out you know up out 8:55 up out and just eventually they will 8:58 just subside because you're like a 8:59 bucket of water and you poke the hole in 9:01 it it's just going to drain drain drain 9:02 drain drain and then it's gone you know 9:04 and then it won't bother you anymore and 9:07 I found that in my life as well where 9:08 the teams in invited me to do that. Many 9:11 times there's some very deep um 9:13 emotional stuff that was going on and it 9:15 subsides rapidly when you do that. And 9:18 the key is to honor it, not to fight or 9:20 think like you're no I need to feel like 9:22 I'm in control or I'm in charge. They're 9:24 saying no, no, no, no, no. You're going 9:25 the wrong way again. You got to relax 9:28 and allow because you know you're not 9:30 being bowled over by the energy. It's 9:32 simply leaving you. There's nothing to 9:34 fight here. There's, you know, if you 9:36 ever feel yourself fighting, that's 9:38 again the wrong direction. They're 9:39 saying, and they're saying the more that 9:41 you can relax and allow, you'll find 9:43 this will very peacefully leave. The 9:45 more you engage, start to fight, start 9:48 to rear up, it will really elongate and 9:50 you'll have a real rough ride of it. You 9:52 know, they're saying it's it's like 9:54 you'll have the assault course in the 9:56 left lane and you have a nice beautiful 9:58 walk through the forest on the right 9:59 lane. Both ways will lead to the same 10:01 path eventually, but which one do you 10:03 want to do? [laughter] 10:04 >> That's a great analogy. And so, you 10:06 know, for many people, including myself 10:08 at lunchtime today, this, [laughter] 10:11 you know, take form as as as big 10:13 physical purging. 10:16 >> Literally physical purging. 10:19 >> Yes. Yes. I've and and I say to people 10:22 as well, you know, for the for the sake 10:24 of comfort for people because I think 10:25 some people tend to say, "Oh, yeah, I 10:27 know you're" and I said, "No, no, no, 10:29 no. I I I go through my stuff as well. 10:31 You're all here puzzle piece. No one's 10:33 no one's exempt from that. That's why 10:34 we're here, you know, we're not here to 10:37 have a nice, you know, kind of, how 10:39 could you say, sit back and kind of just 10:42 uh, you know, we do have puzzle pieces, 10:43 but we have to master how we handle 10:45 them. And the way we do it is just 10:48 through the grace and allowance uh, 10:50 aspect, which which the teams just spoke 10:52 about. And so I think that's a very 10:54 critical thing because I can feel them 10:56 saying now that one of the big things in 10:58 the spiritual community is a lot of 10:59 people have made identities for 11:01 themselves about themselves as a 11:04 spiritual being and they're saying those 11:05 in themselves are not going to be 11:07 helpful because those are actually part 11:09 of an aspect of holy on grip and 11:11 identification 11:13 and they're saying the more that you can 11:14 just allow and let those old paradigms 11:17 just dissolve away because some people 11:19 really have a dependency on them and 11:21 I've I've done a few of those myself. 11:22 So, I do understand what that's like. 11:24 You know, you really feel and they were 11:26 they're saying again, they're smiling. 11:28 They're saying, "Imagine again the 11:30 island of safety that we had you on." 11:32 And then we're going to ask you to swim 11:34 out in the fluidity of of the ocean and 11:36 go in the middle of way, way, way out. 11:38 So, you can't even see the island 11:40 anymore. Now, look back and realize, "Oh 11:42 my god." And the first instinct is, "Oh 11:44 my god, I've got nothing to hold on to." 11:45 And they're saying, "That's right." 11:47 Because when you're in your true self, 11:48 you you're not holding on to anything. 11:50 You have completely let go. And when you 11:53 have let go, everything can move 11:56 effortlessly or just come straight off 11:58 you. There's no grip, no holding, no 11:59 identity, no nothing. And as I've said 12:02 before, if you look at the word 12:04 identity, it puts it spells the word 12:05 dent in the middle of your two eyes and 12:08 always leaves you with why. In other 12:11 words, it it basically blinds you from 12:13 seeing what really is, causes you to 12:15 grip, and then you're left with how can 12:17 I do? It's not going. Why? Why? Why? why 12:20 [laughter] you know that's identity in a 12:22 nutshell basically. 12:25 Um so my team's my high self. Do you 12:27 have anything else you'd love to add on 12:29 that conversation or anything else you'd 12:31 like to offer as as advice or you know 12:33 information for people? 12:36 Um they're saying that's pretty much it. 12:38 Um there is something that they're Okay, 12:41 they're showing me now if you don't mind 12:43 uh 12:43 >> please. Yeah. 12:45 Um so okay is that in the core in the 12:48 center it's ah it's both and the earth 12:51 as well um okay right so that what 12:54 they're showing me is there is this 12:56 there's this ignition process taking 12:58 place and they said they've spoken about 13:00 this before it's within the core of the 13:03 human being in the core of the heart and 13:05 it's it's it's the initial 13:09 okay if I've got this right my eyes 13:10 please correct me if I'm misinterpreting 13:12 this it's the initial 13:15 um what's the word becoming or they're 13:18 saying that word is fine of this sort of 13:21 new heart field system that's coming in 13:24 this living energetic because the 13:25 Arcturian lady I think the last is it 13:27 the last time we spoke she held out her 13:29 hand and showed an image of this new 13:32 heart energetic 13:33 and me and they're saying these waves 13:36 that are coming in are part of the 13:38 initialization of that as well. So 13:40 they're saying they're laughing. They're 13:41 saying in human terms it's not all doom 13:42 and gloom. [laughter] 13:44 So 13:46 they're saying they mean that in a funny 13:47 way. It's it's not actually doom and 13:49 gloom. [laughter] 13:51 Um and they're saying it's so it's it's 13:53 these waves are multifaceted. So they're 13:56 here to ignite a a a new human uh 14:00 condition or a state where people have 14:03 the ability or the chance they're saying 14:05 the opportunity to choose to become very 14:09 very 14:11 what's the word? It's I'm just trying to 14:13 find the right words to best describe 14:15 the quality because it's they're not 14:16 speaking this. They're just showing me 14:18 this this energy. 14:20 Um, 14:22 it's just like this. 14:25 You I wish I could just paint a picture 14:26 of what I'm seeing right now. I'll do 14:28 the best I can. So, it's a series of 14:31 just beautiful sort of pearlescent sort 14:33 of lightly blue [gasps] 14:36 um emissions from the heart center. And 14:38 it's just these beautiful waves of just 14:42 immense heart intelligence, source love 14:45 intelligence, compassion, just all those 14:47 qualities just really imbuing 14:50 And they're saying this is a a new state 14:53 of humanity where humanity is literally 14:56 going to be a um have the opportunity to 15:00 be a very um 15:04 what's the word? Um I'm I'm well they're 15:06 saying the word portal but it's like a 15:08 an entryway if you like of source 15:11 intelligence in a way into the human 15:13 form that has never been done before. 15:15 you know, they're saying even in your 15:16 more advanced states previously on this 15:18 planet, many of the civilizations like 15:20 Lumeriia and other places like that, um 15:23 they were never able to get to this 15:25 point because it wasn't possible at that 15:26 point. Um but they're saying it is now. 15:30 Um, and so this is the they're saying 15:32 this is the exciting information 15:34 primarily they would love to share 15:36 because this is the possibilities that 15:39 we're having and they're saying what 15:40 they would like to cuz they're saying 15:41 they can already see the future 15:43 potentials of people who are watching 15:44 who are perhaps saying yeah I don't feel 15:46 like that now or you know that kind of 15:48 thing and they're saying well we 15:50 understand that but you have to go 15:52 through an unfolding as well because you 15:54 have to sort of let go and be clear of 15:57 the old energetics. So they're saying 15:59 just, you know, again, breathe 16:02 rhythmically. Um, be centered, be still, 16:05 be, you know, don't fight, you know, 16:07 don't rear up and get like a buckaroo 16:09 and start, you know, [laughter] 16:11 it's either me or you kind of thing. 16:13 It's it's not like that. They're saying 16:15 the more that you can be fluid and let 16:17 this stuff go, you will make space for 16:19 this new to come through quite 16:21 effortlessly. And they're saying that's 16:22 one of the keys here. It's very, very 16:24 important. 16:26 Um because they're saying you are 16:28 literally riding the ways of your own 16:30 making and that are coming through from 16:31 source and it's all you know about 16:34 stepping the personality stepping out of 16:36 the way of your core so that your core 16:38 can intelligently 16:40 um h you know sort of find the words um 16:44 sculpt everything in the way that it 16:46 needs to be in a perfect way you know 16:49 >> so they're saying that's the way to do 16:50 it and the more you can allow yourself 16:52 to do that um and they're saying 16:56 critically, one of the difficulties they 16:57 see with people is they're so ultra 16:59 focused with what's going on outside 17:01 right now. It stirs them up, you know, 17:04 and [laughter] you know, gets them 17:06 triggered really quickly and they snap 17:07 back out of centeredness and get back 17:09 into personality grip, fight and flight 17:11 and everything else. And they're saying 17:13 it really if they just would really ask 17:16 people to really trust their core. You 17:19 know, you're not trusting anything else. 17:20 They're not asking you to trust anything 17:22 outside you. They're saying we're not 17:23 even asking you to trust us, you know. 17:26 We're asking you to go inside and trust 17:28 your core. Your core intelligence, your 17:31 source intelligence, eination knows 17:33 exactly who you are, what you are, your 17:36 inside and out, subatomically, 17:38 atomically, everything else at cellular 17:40 level knows exactly what's going on 17:42 inside you, what's inside you, what's 17:44 yet to come up, what's coming up, the 17:46 whole thing. And they're saying if you 17:48 can trust in that and they're saying 17:50 that's where a lot of people stumble 17:52 because of the issue of lack of 17:55 self-worth and and you know self- value. 17:58 They're saying that's part of the 17:59 fortress which gets in the way and 18:01 inhibits people from feeling that core 18:03 energy inside them. And so they don't 18:05 feel there's much to trust in. And so 18:08 they're saying that's part of the issue. 18:10 But they're saying the more you practice 18:11 that gentle rhythmic breathing of just 18:13 simply inviting each inb breath, your 18:15 highest self, your core source 18:17 intelligence into you, 5 minutes a day, 18:20 30 seconds a day, it doesn't matter. 18:22 Whenever you feel like it, be be 18:23 playful. There's no rigidity. There's no 18:25 plan. There's no um fixture about this. 18:29 It's it's very playful. You might just 18:31 be impulsed by it. Say, "Oh, hey, why 18:32 don't you start, you know, breathing me 18:35 in right now? This would be a good time 18:36 to do it, you know, pardon me." And so 18:38 they're saying if you can do that, you 18:40 know, um, and whenever you feel like 18:43 doing it, they're saying your relaxation 18:45 and your just releasing of the wish to 18:48 know all the ins and outs of what's 18:50 going on outside you will just 18:51 disappear. You'll you'll just lose 18:53 interest in it because it won't be 18:55 important. Um, what will be important is 18:58 you, Wow, this amazing energy that's 19:00 coming through. Suddenly I feel 19:02 incredibly centered, incredibly relaxed 19:04 and I can feel the vast loving 19:07 intelligence that comes through now. Now 19:09 I feel it. Now I can just relax into ah 19:12 I feel it now. Everything's starting to 19:14 organize itself quite miraculously 19:16 around you without you needing to plan 19:18 or think about doing anything. That's 19:20 your core intelligence uh starting to 19:22 affect your outer environment as it 19:25 should do or as you wish it to is 19:27 another way of saying it. But they're 19:29 saying that's in a very big summary. 19:32 They're saying that's a nutshell of what 19:33 they really wish to convey to people 19:35 today. 19:36 >> Yeah. Great. Thank you. That was really 19:38 really valuable. Thank you, David. 19:40 Because things are happening at very 19:41 different levels. You know, we've got 19:43 beautiful accelerated evolution, but 19:46 equally we have the accelerated collapse 19:49 and you know, I [laughter] very clearly 19:51 in the astrology. It's going to build 19:53 through October. November is going to be 19:56 uh pretty wild at the 3D level as that 19:58 as that collapse continues. But it has 20:00 to happen, you know, and and it's meant 20:02 to happen because otherwise I couldn't 20:04 see it in the astrology. So there go, 20:06 you know, it isn't a mistake. It isn't 20:08 that we're off track. It's meant to be 20:11 because it's a it's a consequence of 20:14 these hu huge evolutionary leaps we're 20:16 making. 20:17 >> It is. Yes. And Oh, had you finished 20:20 there? Sorry. I was about to say 20:21 something 20:22 >> just to say I think um it seems that 20:25 David that we humanity is now on a 20:28 higher timeline than even your team 20:30 expected. Is that true? 20:32 >> Yes, that's correct. They mentioned it 20:34 because we had a a chat before this, 20:36 didn't we? And they said yes. There this 20:38 the possibilities that are opening up 20:41 are just well in their words, you know, 20:43 or they're saying to coin human phrase 20:45 are staggering. They really are. Now 20:47 they're saying they want to explain um a 20:50 little bit. Is that correct? My higher 20:52 self. Okay. So there's a Palladian team 20:53 here right now. And I think there's 20:55 another group of beings that are here as 20:56 well. Um and what they're saying is 21:01 understand humans. They're saying that 21:03 the 21:05 archetypes and artifacts that you see 21:07 outside you are the direct result of 21:09 what you hold and hide in your 21:11 unconscious and subconscious. You see, 21:13 they're saying humanity has been making 21:15 choices and has been somewhat steered by 21:18 external forces as well, but that's not 21:20 so much important. They're saying to 21:22 cultivate this system, to cultivate the 21:25 energetic environment and the condition 21:27 for this system to exist. And so they're 21:29 saying as you purge, as you clear this 21:31 stuff out, all of the um energetic 21:35 emissions that create and sculpt that 21:39 very constricted system are dropping 21:42 away. So therefore the system has 21:43 nothing to sustain it and it will and 21:45 it's breaking away by itself and exactly 21:48 they're saying exactly to follow what 21:50 from what you were saying that is the 21:52 very simple mechanism of what is 21:54 happening you know it's not all going to 21:57 sh you know [laughter] it's a it's a 22:01 renovation project the old house is 22:04 being collapsed down because the very 22:07 foundations that held it in place are 22:08 being removed and a new energetic a new 22:11 system, a new environment, a new home is 22:15 being made in its place, but the old has 22:18 to be broken down. And that's what 22:19 that's what's happening. And so this 22:22 they're saying this is a golden 22:23 opportunity for everyone to learn about 22:25 themselves in in ways whatever you get 22:28 triggered by whatever you get offended 22:30 by or anything like that that is an 22:33 opportunity to learn about yourself and 22:35 what you hold and won't and don't want 22:38 to let go of because that is the 22:39 triggering and the the aspects behind it 22:42 you know so for myself you know whenever 22:45 I come across somebody and something 22:46 rattles me slightly I will say okay 22:49 right okay had a little rattle ling 22:50 there. So, okay, what is it inside me I 22:52 need to learn? And my higher self will 22:54 come forward and say, okay, you had 22:55 this, this, and this in your energy 22:57 field. That's what came forward in 22:59 response to that energy coming near you. 23:02 Now it's come up. There you go. You can 23:04 heal it. You move beyond. You don't get 23:06 that experience again. It's that simple. 23:08 >> Because it, you know, I often have a 23:10 saying of starve out the scary love in 23:12 the good because 23:14 >> tends to do is focus absolutely on what 23:16 we don't want more of. [laughter] 23:18 >> Right. a hard time. You know, we're in 23:20 this constant hamster wheel. So, we've 23:22 just got to really keep our spiritual 23:24 blinkers on to create create something 23:27 really beautiful. And we we we talked 23:30 briefly um in our pre-hat about I was 23:32 asking you about the 24th chromosome 23:35 that's coming back. 23:37 >> And um I'd love you to expand on that 23:40 because you were really suggesting it 23:42 isn't just that multi-dimensional 23:45 24th chromosome. It's it's way more than 23:48 that. I'd love you to talk about that. 23:50 >> Yes. Yeah. I'm going to ask my highest 23:52 self. Would you like to come in and and 23:54 uh and lead the way on this conversation 23:56 case? [laughter] 23:58 And there are other teams here as well 23:59 that actually uh seem to um specialize 24:04 in the energetics of this these kind of 24:06 systems. So my high self and the love 24:10 life beings that my higher self has 24:11 brought forward here. Okay. So what 24:13 would you like to share on this this 24:14 issue or this not this issue this topic? 24:18 Um so they're saying that uh yes it is 24:20 correct there is a transformation taking 24:23 place and the current condition of the 24:25 chromosal structures that we have and 24:27 for those people who are not aware of of 24:29 those kind of things um so at the 24:31 current at the moment we we the the 24:34 mainstream science says that we have 20 24:36 23 chromosomes and basically this is DNA 24:39 sort of wrapped itself up into these 24:41 different shapes and each sort of 24:43 variation is you know one of the 23 24:46 chromosomes basically 24:48 Now, when me and Pam were having a 24:50 conversation the other day, um we this 24:53 just suddenly came through. I think you 24:55 asked a question about uh something to 24:57 do with this and the teams just came 24:58 through and started to introduce this 25:00 information and they were saying that at 25:02 the moment cuz on the end of the 25:04 chromosomes uh there are um uh little 25:08 extensions called telomeres 25:10 and what science has observed or you 25:12 know u moderately observed is that 25:14 there's a link between the length of 25:15 those telomeres and your your age or how 25:17 your body appears to be aging so on and 25:20 so forth. Um but what the teams are 25:22 saying is those uh those telomeres are 25:25 actually greatly misunderstood and these 25:27 have a very profound uh light coding uh 25:31 function in them and and as they stop 25:34 working the light uh streams that are 25:36 supposed to stream and emit from those 25:38 telomeres start to slow down slow down 25:40 slow down and they're saying what 25:42 actually is supposed to happen and this 25:44 is where we're moving to is these 25:46 chromosomeal structures will 25:48 energetically and through light fibers 25:51 or light conduits will connect and form 25:53 a geometrical a very profound and very 25:56 beautiful geometrical structure. And 25:59 they're saying that will bring you into 26:01 such a multi-dimensional resonance 26:03 because that will act as um a sort of 26:06 resonance footing if you like within 26:09 these the the dimensions that we're in 26:11 perhaps the the fourth and fifth um to a 26:14 very high level. So you'll have access 26:16 to a very large spread. And they said 26:19 we've spoken about this before which is 26:21 that humanity will have access for 26:23 fifth, sixth, and even seventh 26:25 dimensional aspects. And they're saying 26:27 this is the foundational blueprint 26:29 through which part of that is going to 26:31 take place. I say it's very important 26:33 for the the the bridge, the energetic 26:37 bridge to have a footing in where you 26:39 are and also to have an extension up 26:41 into the higher realms because then 26:42 you'll have access to very high 26:45 dimensional wisdom from your you know 26:47 multi-dimensional self. 26:49 You'll be able to apply highlevel 26:51 energetics in these realms which you you 26:54 won't be able to do so you know you 26:56 haven't been able to do so far. They're 26:58 saying it's all part of this new 27:00 beautiful project of having very 27:02 advanced beings who have very very 27:05 powerful multi-dimensional linkage or 27:07 bridging within themselves that can 27:09 apply those high level energetics within 27:12 the realm they are. It's like having a 27:14 bridge down into a high place into this 27:16 level and be able to emanate it here. In 27:19 a way they're saying that's that's a 27:21 very very uh very simple way of looking 27:23 at it. But yes, in a nutshell they're 27:24 saying that's that's more or less 27:26 correct. And they're saying that what 27:28 has happened with humanity is the 27:31 uh those chromosal structures have more 27:33 or less just sort of come apart and they 27:35 just sort of float around each other and 27:37 you know more or less aren't really 27:39 interlinking properly and aren't doing 27:40 what you know what they actually are 27:43 capable of doing. And so um and they 27:46 spoke before they said that you know 27:47 lots of people have spoken about the 27:49 24th chromosome and they're saying well 27:51 actually there are more than that. It's 27:53 not just limited to 24. And they're 27:56 saying these are all aspects of this 27:58 beautiful living light geometric form 28:01 that is starting to form and starting to 28:03 to come into place. And they're saying 28:06 now that this is also a part of the 28:08 evolutionary waves as you call them 28:10 coming through is because they're 28:12 starting the process of the reawakening 28:14 and the reactivating of these coming 28:16 coming forward. 28:18 So this is a very exciting thing that's 28:20 that's coming forward and and you know 28:22 I'm I'm so glad they're they're willing 28:24 to share this because it's really really 28:26 important information and I think 28:28 uplifting information for a lot of 28:29 people as well. And the other aspect of 28:32 this they're saying is by having this 28:34 arrangement in place there will be such 28:35 an imbuing of source intelligence within 28:38 you. And they're saying it connects and 28:40 it relates directly to the heart center 28:42 itself where the heart center is going 28:44 to become the the absolute center of 28:46 your being. And these uh sort of 28:49 chromosomeal light geometric forms, 28:51 whatever you want to call them. Um so 28:54 living light chromosal forms. [laughter] 28:57 I don't quite have the word for it yet. 28:59 They're sort of smiling. They're saying 29:00 there's no need to give it a word right 29:01 now. Um but just to give some sort of 29:04 description of what it is, it's these 29:06 are almost they're saying it's like 29:08 they'll become direct extensions of the 29:11 source intelligence from the heart 29:13 center and every aspect of your material 29:16 makeup will be an extension of that. It 29:18 will no longer be just a little trickle 29:20 of source intelligence and just a 29:22 material body that more or less makes to 29:25 just steadily force to pieces as it 29:28 moves along. And then that's what you 29:30 get basically. 29:32 And you know um you know they're saying 29:35 that when uh they're saying when this 29:37 one you know I guess they mean me that's 29:39 yes when I've had experiences of having 29:41 these billocation experiences too like 29:43 the Arcterians and other and other 29:45 beings like that you know um the the 29:48 sense I've always gotten the information 29:50 was that they're they can exist in their 29:53 form for however long they wish to 29:56 because the source intelligence within 29:57 them is constantly maintaining 29:59 everything perfectly harmonically and 30:01 coherently. That's what it does. It's 30:04 biased for life and it will transform 30:06 anything into a life bias process. 30:10 Whereas what we've what we've existed in 30:12 this dualistic sense, we've been um sort 30:14 of more or less encouraged to go to the 30:16 the the sort of sort of deadpan kind of 30:20 you know shut trying to shut off the 30:22 source intelligence and try and just 30:24 purely just material exist you know 30:25 material existence basically. And I 30:28 think in many ways the absence of 30:30 intelligence fad is kind of an artifact 30:32 of that in a way. You know 30:34 [clears throat] trying to be purely 30:35 materialistic, purely matter-based. 30:38 Um well it doesn't quite work like that 30:40 because you know [laughter] 30:41 fundamentally source is behind every 30:43 piece of matter. So ultimately you know 30:45 you there is no escaping source 30:47 intelligence. It's it's in everything 30:50 [laughter] you know. uh but we have this 30:52 ability to choose because of free will 30:54 to deny it or you know you know sort of 30:56 push it away kind of thing but it's 30:58 always there and that is really where we 31:02 were returning to and everything is 31:03 going to uplift again open up there's 31:05 just the the flourishing of life that we 31:08 haven't known it previously is going to 31:10 come in in bounds and it's all because 31:12 of the source intelligence that will 31:14 imbue everything and really flourish in 31:17 everything before because we we have 31:20 chosen to be part of this experiment to 31:22 experience a diminishing level of source 31:24 intelligence and that has been part of 31:25 the process. But now we've made a 31:28 different choice uh overall collectively 31:30 to know we want to get back to source 31:32 intelligence and that's where we want to 31:34 be. Enough of all this messing around in 31:36 all this horrible stuff, you know, and 31:39 flapping and flailing around, you know, 31:41 it's um it's time to get back to living 31:43 and enjoying life in excitement, bliss, 31:46 adventure, curiosity, and delight again, 31:49 you know, and that's that's where we're 31:50 headed. 31:50 >> So, it sounds like this is a very 31:52 accelerated shift towards the light body 31:55 where we're going to live a lot longer. 31:57 We're going to be much healthier. We're 31:59 going to see life force just shimmering 32:02 in every living living being. And um it 32:05 also feels that it's fractal in some way 32:09 um David that this is happening you know 32:11 within within our own being our own 32:13 physicality but people increasingly and 32:16 through the meditations that many people 32:18 are doing and and you know my community 32:20 increasingly we're seeing this web of 32:22 light around the earth that's getting 32:24 stronger and brighter in every moment 32:27 and and also that's going out you know 32:30 like on supergalactic highways. So it's 32:32 a fractal expression of light at a much 32:36 higher level. Is that what in agree? 32:39 >> Yeah. 32:41 >> Let's Okay. So my highest self, my 32:43 infinite source intelligence, would you 32:44 like to add anything to that? Um yeah, 32:47 there's a big smile on that one. Uh so 32:49 they're saying what you have experienced 32:51 up till now is the experience of quite a 32:53 considerable appearance of the 32:56 separation of things. 32:58 and they're saying to to qualify what's 33:00 meant by that is that atoms appear to be 33:04 separate, molecules appear to be 33:06 separate, they're saying but in truth 33:08 they're not. They're all uh aspects of 33:11 layers and layers of fields which 33:13 themselves are interconnected as well. 33:15 It's all in, you know, and they're 33:17 saying as your um the templates of of 33:22 sort of fixation on separation dissolve 33:24 away, your perception will start to 33:26 change and you'll start to see the 33:28 interconnectivity of all things. And 33:30 they'll say they're saying they'll go a 33:31 step further. It's not even 33:33 interconnectivity. 33:34 It's the already oneness that was 33:36 already there. And they're saying it's 33:38 like this. Um you know, I've used this 33:41 before, but they're saying use this 33:42 again. You know this these all appear to 33:44 be separate right here. If you look 33:46 anywhere from this level above, but the 33:49 second you start moving this down, oh 33:52 actually they were already part of the 33:54 same thing. There you go. And they're 33:56 saying that's a very simple but very 33:57 beautiful way of explaining where how 34:00 our perception is changing and we are 34:01 becoming aware of the already um 34:04 interconnectedness of all things. And 34:07 they're saying that lots of new 34:08 innovations and ideas are going to come 34:10 forward on that because the um and 34:12 they're saying to give an example or the 34:14 the Octurans have stepped forward. Um 34:17 they're saying uh you know what we 34:19 consider to be advanced races, 34:22 you know, and they would say they would 34:24 probably change that phrasiology to 34:26 something else. Yeah. Because they 34:27 consider themselves to be brothers and 34:29 sisters where they're not above anybody. 34:31 Um they're here to reenourage those that 34:34 have forgotten who they are to come back 34:36 into who they are to remember themselves 34:38 as part of the whole and the way they 34:42 would describe their their technology if 34:44 if is that the way you wanted to go with 34:46 this my Octuran uh love light family. Uh 34:49 they're saying yes we can we can go into 34:50 that side of things. Um so they're 34:53 saying they're they're what they what we 34:56 as humans would consider their 34:58 technology. um they would give it 34:59 another word, but it's essentially 35:02 um 35:04 what we as humans would consider very 35:06 advanced living light energetics 35:09 and their ships are alive. Um the 35:12 innovations they use, these are all 35:14 living extensions of source uh source 35:17 intelligence lensed in particular ways. 35:20 And they're saying that's a very simple 35:22 but very perfect way of looking at it. 35:24 But it's how do you lens uh source you 35:27 know the source intelligence light 35:28 coming through into particular ways of 35:30 doing things you know that is inherently 35:34 within source intelligence itself. 35:36 Um and so that's how everything works 35:39 harmoniously beautifully and everything 35:41 just expands and raises quite naturally. 35:43 There's no degradation in their 35:46 technology. There's no degeneration. 35:47 It's all purely generative life biased 35:51 life expansive. Um, and that's they're 35:54 saying that's how it really should be, 35:57 you know, if you choose this [laughter] 35:59 if you wish it to be that way. Um, but 36:03 um, yeah. So, they do you have anything 36:05 else you'd like to add on that or is 36:06 there I felt there was another track you 36:08 wanted to explore there, my Arcterian 36:10 loveite family, they're saying they'd 36:12 like to get back to the heart 36:13 intelligence aspect if that's if that's 36:16 okay with with you, Pam. 36:18 >> Um, so they're saying it really is this 36:21 simple. Um they're saying humanity likes 36:24 to mentalize and complicate things to 36:26 the to they're saying and the human face 36:28 to the nth degree [laughter] 36:31 and they're saying as we have encouraged 36:33 this one and I've spoken about that 36:35 story before they're saying we will do 36:37 the same with all of you and that is 36:40 when you step back into your heart 36:41 intelligence and release the over 36:44 complication of things you will find 36:47 such a profound innovative elegance in 36:51 Being in that state, you will get ideas, 36:53 you will get directions that you will 36:55 never ever have found possible with your 36:58 by using your mind. And they said 37:00 they're saying they'd like to speak 37:01 about that because this is not to 37:02 denigrate the mind at all. They're 37:04 saying it has a beautiful purpose, but 37:06 what has happened is that is it is 37:08 become somewhat separate or the 37:10 apparency of separation from the heart 37:12 intelligence and it's gone about in a 37:14 survivalistic way trying to maintain 37:16 you, you know, take care of business, do 37:18 all that kind of thing. And they're 37:19 saying that's very understandable given 37:21 the situation we've been in. 37:23 But they're saying what's happening now 37:25 is that the mind is is slowly starting 37:28 to return as an extension of the heart 37:30 intelligence. So it can become the 37:32 immaculate mind. You know, not a mind 37:35 that's survivalistic. It's it's an 37:37 immaculate extension of your heart 37:39 center. And they're saying that's the 37:40 mind it was designed to be. It's a very 37:43 beautiful instrument. Um it has image 37:45 generation abilities, all sorts of very 37:48 beautiful things, but it's when it's in 37:51 extension of your heart center that it 37:52 really comes into its own. You know, 37:55 it's all of its functionality. And so 37:57 they're saying what will happen is your 37:59 mind will start to come down and become 38:01 an instrument or or an extension of your 38:03 heart center. And the directions that 38:06 you'll be able to go are just, you know, 38:08 they're saying they they wouldn't even 38:09 be able to describe them to you in human 38:11 terms right now. It's it's really quite 38:13 incredible. 38:14 So, um, they're saying we hope that 38:16 gives a better impression or a better 38:18 feel for, uh, you know, what they're 38:20 what they're saying and where we're 38:21 heading to. 38:22 >> Yeah, it's beautiful. Thank you so much. 38:24 It's it's strange because, um, I went on 38:26 a bit of a ramble at the end of my last 38:28 astronaut. [laughter] 38:31 I'm hearing echoes of that in in in what 38:33 your wonderful team is saying because I 38:35 was talking about the dwarf planets and 38:36 the Kyperog objects which are further 38:38 out in space which going to be able to 38:41 discover them because our consciousness 38:43 has expanded sufficiently to remember 38:45 them let's say but they're they're 38:47 bringing back to us the remembrance of 38:50 everything is oneness everything is 38:51 sacred everything is divine and when 38:55 you're in that realm the um the breadand 38:58 butter planets as I all them that we've 39:00 worked with as astrologers for, you 39:02 know, many, many years seem a little too 39:05 tight in their definition, a little too 39:07 individualistic almost. 39:09 >> What we're getting with the dwarf 39:10 planets that are further out is this 39:12 this huge sense of expansion and a huge 39:15 sense of light. There's one particular 39:17 dwarf planet called Salassia that I 39:19 think is all to do with the light, you 39:22 know, very high frequency light and 39:24 that's being very um activated in the 39:26 astrology right now. So, so it seems 39:30 that as we move forwards very rapidly, 39:34 the path we were on, the path we are on 39:36 both individually and collectively is 39:38 going to become clearer and clearer and 39:40 clearer to us and the old path is going 39:43 to fall away. Is that what I'm hearing, 39:45 David? 39:46 >> Yes. So, the uh uh let me see there's a 39:49 is that a new group coming forward here? 39:51 Um 39:52 this they're saying it's a okay my 39:54 highest self could you um uh 39:59 okay it's um [laughter] there um there's 40:02 there's more octurans coming forward 40:04 basically I was just trying to discern 40:06 the energy of uh you know what was 40:08 happening there okay so my higher self 40:10 and my octuran love light family please 40:12 go ahead and what you'd like to respond 40:13 there um so they're saying yes um this 40:17 time is a delicate stage because it's a 40:19 it's it's a deep midpoint transitional 40:23 process. And they're saying that um so 40:27 much it it's like trying to ask somebody 40:30 who's going from black to white and then 40:34 having the halfway is gray is where are 40:36 you now? I'm not really sure it's all 40:38 gray, you know. And um they're saying in 40:41 many in many concepts that's where a lot 40:44 of people find themselves right now. 40:45 It's it's in that transitional movement. 40:47 So there's a lot of wobble, a lot of 40:49 uncertainty in people. those kind of 40:50 things. And they're saying that's why 40:52 they encourage people again to go into 40:54 relaxation into the flow of the core 40:56 again because that's where you'll 40:58 center, you'll stabilize and you'll just 41:00 relax and bathe in the core intelligence 41:03 of you again. Um because the truth is 41:06 they're saying that you can't actually 41:08 get mental clarification of this because 41:12 there are qualities to this that the 41:13 mind simply cannot touch. And so you'd 41:16 be doing it superficially. Um they're 41:19 saying this is a process of of 41:21 surrendering back into yourself. You're 41:23 not surrendering to other people or 41:25 other groups, certainly not to us. 41:27 They're saying we're asking you to 41:29 surrender back into yourself. And you 41:32 know, and they're saying the analogy 41:33 that had been used before about the 41:35 island and being asked to swim off the 41:37 island of solidarity into the ocean of 41:39 fluidity. You're actually relaxing and 41:42 you realize the ocean was you. It's 41:43 always been you. in this tiny little 41:45 island you felt safe and secure on where 41:47 you could grip, hold, and sit there till 41:50 you, you know, however long you wanted 41:52 to. And then you go into the ocean where 41:54 everything is fluid and morphing and 41:56 changing. And they're saying this is 41:58 going to become the new kind of normal 42:00 for people, constant change and and 42:03 flow, you know. And they're saying 42:05 you've been used to such structure, such 42:07 constrictor, and such um staticness or 42:10 or the same maintaining 42:12 um that's going to change. And they're 42:14 saying a lot of people are going to and 42:15 through this transitional point find 42:17 that a little scary because they've been 42:19 so used to feeling safe and secure with 42:22 the same old in this hand and that hand 42:24 as well. And they're saying that's what 42:26 is breaking away. And it it necessarily 42:29 has to. 42:31 Um and so they're saying this is how 42:33 they would in a very very uh simple 42:35 overview describe more or less what's 42:37 happening in this transitional point 42:39 right now. But they're saying not only 42:41 is it transitional, it's there's a a 42:43 very powerful acceleration that's about 42:45 to happen as well and it's towards the 42:47 end of this year uh through these these 42:50 powerful waves as well. So they're 42:52 saying that's why they're really 42:53 encouraging people to be playful, be 42:55 relaxed and you will just float through 42:57 this. It's it's not it's not difficult, 42:59 you know, it's not something to brace 43:00 yourself through. It's actually 43:02 something to get excited about. They're 43:03 saying they really would encourage that 43:06 because they're saying there's um a lot 43:09 of apprehension is based in this idea of 43:12 people not having what they they feel 43:15 they can grip onto and they're saying 43:17 you really are leaving that whole 43:18 concept. So the more at home you can be 43:21 in fluidity without gripping without 43:23 holding without requiring anything 43:26 without expecting anything where you can 43:28 just be yourself in pure fluidity of 43:32 your core self they're saying you will 43:34 just breeze through this and it will be 43:35 such a delight to do so it really is 43:38 it's only when you step out back into 43:40 the grip and control and bucking and 43:42 rearing that's when you're going to 43:44 start to experience the issues. So yeah. 43:47 >> So it sounds like as we move forwards 43:49 the training wheels are going to come 43:51 off. 43:52 >> They already have. They're saying 43:54 apparently. 43:55 >> That's good news, which is why we 43:57 haven't even got the 44:01 >> Yeah, they love to explore that if you 44:03 wouldn't mind. delighted. Um, yeah. So, 44:06 they said that's very apt that you that 44:08 you uh said that and um they're very 44:10 excited that you did because they're 44:11 saying the the training wheels have come 44:13 off already and they're saying that is 44:16 also an aspect of what's caused people 44:17 to wobble cuz they feel like something 44:20 has left them. Something has gone like a 44:22 guard rail or whatever you want to call 44:24 it that they always felt was there that 44:26 they could call on. It's gone now. And 44:29 what they're saying is the era of 44:32 selfresponsibility, 44:34 standing in your center. And they're 44:36 saying you humans have a phrase of 44:38 standing on your own two feet. And they 44:40 said they would qualify that in the in 44:42 the in the new way of being things of 44:44 standing sovereignly in your center. 44:47 That's that's what we're learning to do. 44:49 And they're saying what that really 44:50 means is is that we're letting go of all 44:54 notion of victimhood. They're saying we 44:56 we encourage you to erase that from your 44:58 vocabulary. Uh you are victim to 45:00 nothing. You are victim to no one. The 45:03 longer you play that game, the longer 45:04 you will embroil yourself in reaction 45:07 and ducking, diving, punching, what 45:10 whatever you want to call it. That's 45:11 that's just me speaking there. Um but 45:14 it's that whole old paradigm of on the 45:16 merrygoround. It's like argument, 45:18 reaction, argument, reaction. It just 45:20 goes round and around and around. It 45:22 goes nowhere. It depletes you. It's the 45:25 old energy and they're saying we really 45:27 encourage people to let go of old 45:29 arguments. Let go of everything that 45:31 you're you're in contention with. Just 45:33 let things be and let your source 45:36 intelligence come through and reorganize 45:38 things for you, you know, because it is 45:40 you and that is what it is. They're 45:42 saying to to be in that new energy. You 45:44 are centered. You are sovereign from 45:46 that heart intelligence and it will 45:48 organize everything around you. And 45:50 they're saying if you ask us how we live 45:52 life, this is how we live life. 45:54 Everything is harmoniously organized 45:56 around us because we emit a high level 45:58 of source intelligence and all of the 46:01 universe responds in kind and and and 46:04 resculpts itself because of the source 46:06 intelligence doing it because they're 46:08 saying it's it's it's a request. The 46:10 emission you give off is a request to 46:12 experience. 46:14 And so if you're giving off an energy 46:16 which has egotistical vibes or uh this 46:19 is mine not yours get off vibes a whole 46:22 slew of things and we could just rattle 46:24 through a whole list and just couple a 46:26 couple there. Um you're going to pull 46:28 into you experiences that will directly 46:30 reflect that. So you will get people who 46:32 are argumentative with you who will 46:34 reflect that. You will get people who 46:35 will want to do things and you'll get 46:37 and this is they're saying this is where 46:39 we ask you to stop and just be still and 46:43 ask yourself the question what is it 46:45 that I have to learn about myself so 46:47 that I don't keep going around on this 46:49 merrygoround again I can get more into 46:51 centeredness and sovereignity again you 46:54 know because there's no winners in 46:56 egotistical engagement everybody loses 46:58 you might feel like you got the upper 47:00 hand but you haven't you've depleted 47:02 yourself you brought your energy down 47:04 you've taken yourself out of center. So 47:06 has they or whoever the group individual 47:08 is, whatever it is, just as an example. 47:11 Um, and now you've got to get yourself 47:13 back again. But you haven't gained 47:15 anything. Nothing. It's it's just, you 47:17 know, a personality trait wanting to pit 47:20 itself against another personality trait 47:22 and they jab yab jab jab jab jaba, you 47:24 know, and then it it's well, you you've 47:26 both depleted yourself and in fact, 47:28 you've been sending each other quite a 47:29 lot of low energetic degeneration. So 47:32 you're actually hurting each other as 47:34 well. So no one gets served. Um but when 47:37 you come into heart-c centeredness and 47:38 just um you know and they're saying you 47:40 can be a reflection to help the other 47:42 person to understand hey you know why 47:45 don't you try getting into heart center. 47:46 We we don't need to be in contention 47:48 here you know um you know I'll 47:50 understand my side you understand your 47:52 side we will both evolve and we'll both 47:54 get more heart-c centered as a result of 47:56 it. They're saying that is a a beautiful 47:58 course of action for much of humanity 48:01 right now to contemplate on and ask 48:03 themselves the question about because 48:06 they're saying you waste so much energy 48:08 and emission on embroiling yourselves. 48:11 They're saying in these um [laughter] 48:15 they're saying in your human terms just 48:17 wasteful, uneventful, unhelpful 48:19 experiences that don't help you get 48:21 anywhere but they are learning 48:23 experiences. So the question is will you 48:26 take the opportunity to learn and evolve 48:28 from them and center yourself more from 48:30 it or will you re-engage and keep on 48:33 going down that merrygoround again and 48:34 again until you get it? And I remember 48:37 the team saying to me through somebody 48:39 else who I knew way back when and she 48:41 was a very good channeler and the beings 48:43 through her at the time I was going 48:44 through quite a difficult process in my 48:46 early years and she said well they're 48:48 saying that you will go through this 48:49 again and again and again until you 48:51 finally realize you know that's what the 48:54 lesson is for. You will repeat this 48:55 lesson until you finally understand the 48:58 nature of what the lesson is trying to 49:00 teach you. You know, and so they said, 49:02 "This is the choice you have. Humanity. 49:04 Learn from all of your experiences. 49:06 Every single one of them is there to 49:09 show you an aspect of yourself that is 49:11 yet to be healed, yet to be recognized, 49:14 yet to be harmonized. And if you can 49:16 adjust your perspective so that you can 49:19 live like that, you will fly." But 49:22 they're saying the second you re-engage 49:24 in one of those learning lessons, it's 49:27 like they're saying, "Think of yourself 49:28 in a classroom. the teacher is trying to 49:30 tell you something about yourself. You 49:32 rear up and say, "No, I don't want to do 49:34 that. Let's fight." [laughter] 49:36 It's it's like, you know, it's kind of 49:38 like that. And instead, it's like, okay, 49:41 so interesting. So, uh, what does that 49:43 teach me about myself, you know, and 49:46 they're saying, this comes back to the 49:48 island analogy because a lot of people 49:50 feel such fear of leaving the island. 49:53 They would rather stay and fight to stay 49:55 on the island of where they are than 49:58 just relax and allow themselves. You're 50:00 not losing anything. No one's beating 50:02 you. You're not you're not moving down 50:04 the podium. There's no podium there to 50:05 go up or down on. You know, everyone is 50:08 as an aspect of source intelligence. Can 50:11 you relax and go into the ocean of you 50:13 and let go of all that you hold that's 50:16 creating this scenario and learn more 50:18 about yourself and what it is within 50:20 yourself that has asked for this lesson 50:22 to come to you so that you could heal 50:24 this within you. you know, you become 50:28 very peaceful in doing that. And and 50:30 myself, you know, having gone from a 50:32 very handric, as people can see in the 50:35 video, and I purposefully put that up, 50:36 and I've said this before, so people can 50:38 see the difference between somebody 50:40 who's woring away in their head 50:42 frantically, you know, everything's just 50:44 a calculation or a matter of, you know, 50:46 mental function. um to somebody that is 50:50 much more uh you know heart-c 50:52 centeredness and the the peace and 50:54 serenity you get in seeing everything 50:56 that comes your way and I still have my 50:58 slips. I want to make that very clear 50:59 with people, you know, um cuz I know 51:03 there's this a big thing with people, 51:05 you know, that sort of denigrate 51:06 themselves when they don't, you know, 51:08 that I I still slip occasionally as 51:10 well. That's not, you know, I'm still 51:12 learning about myself in as well. So I 51:15 want to make that clear because it's 51:16 very helpful to people to understand 51:18 that you know we are all going through 51:20 our puzzle piece process solving and we 51:23 chose ourselves to be in these 51:24 particular pathways specifically because 51:27 the puzzle pieces we will be going 51:29 through and engaging with are very much 51:32 what we are adept in our own soul uh 51:35 pathway at dealing with. So, you know, 51:38 don't fight the lesson. Don't buck it. 51:40 Just relax, sit down, and ask your 51:42 higher self, what is it that I need to 51:44 learn from this? What are you showing 51:45 me? What am I what am I being shown 51:47 about myself that this troublesome or 51:50 bothersome, pokey, what situation is is 51:55 doing? Because it sometimes, you see, 51:57 the trouble is they're saying the 51:59 difficulty with humanity because it has 52:01 been so in a sort of relatively 52:03 unconscious state for quite some time. 52:07 Sometimes has to have quite big pokes 52:10 coming its way to jolt, you know, to get 52:12 you aware of things. And that's where 52:15 some of the difficulty can come where 52:17 people react instead of saying, "Okay, 52:18 right. Yeah, that just okay, let's just 52:21 calm that down. Didn't like that very 52:22 much. Okay, what do I need to learn?" 52:24 you know, u people go into reaction, 52:26 they rear up and they get their fists up 52:28 and they start going into fisty cups, 52:30 you know, both energetically and 52:32 sometimes physically. Um, and they're 52:35 saying the the w a wise choice they 52:38 would like to offer is if you find 52:39 yourself in a situation like that, walk 52:41 away. You know, you don't have to deal 52:44 with this in the midst of, you know, the 52:46 pokiness and the proddding of the active 52:49 lesson going on. You can withdraw and 52:51 say, "Right, okay. I I feel the energy. 52:54 I feel what it was going for. I can feel 52:56 what it was showing me. Now I can deal 52:59 with it in my own peace and time and my 53:00 own space and nothing is threatening me. 53:03 You know, that's a big thing in so many 53:05 different examples, I think, which will 53:07 be so helpful for people right now. 53:09 >> Yeah. Wonderful. It's it's very 53:11 interesting, David, because I'm, you 53:12 know, astrologically I'm thinking of 53:14 Aquarian energy. And in Aquarian energy, 53:16 you get a a clearer sense of your own 53:19 sovereignty, your own unique essence, 53:21 the gift you can give to the world, but 53:23 at the same time, you have a very clear 53:26 sense of of connectedness to all living 53:28 beings. It's like, you know, fungi have 53:31 a mycelium. Trees, you know, all of 53:34 their roots connect. So there's a clear 53:36 sense of um this is what I can offer to 53:39 the world and I have a clearer sense of 53:41 my own gift and contribution but at the 53:44 same time I have a clearer sense of 53:46 connectedness to all living things as as 53:48 oneness. Yes. Yes. And they're saying 53:51 that is what will happen is because at 53:53 the moment uh humanity is seeing another 53:56 individual as separate and therefore you 53:59 know rearing up at them doesn't really 54:01 matter so much. But you're saying as 54:03 your perception energy changes you'll 54:05 realize that as another aspect of you in 54:07 another form and therefore you're 54:10 actually hurting yourself by doing that. 54:13 And so they're they're saying you're 54:15 absolutely correct. The awareness is 54:17 starting to raise up as we start moving 54:19 this down. And we realize, you know, 54:21 there is a there are light fiber 54:23 interconnections. There are, 54:26 you know, within fields that are all 54:28 unified. It's all going to start moving 54:30 in that direction. We realize actually 54:32 we're all one and the same. And you 54:35 know, it makes zero sense. And it and it 54:37 won't even be an impulse within you once 54:40 you are sufficiently heart-c centered to 54:42 cause harm to another. And and you'll 54:44 actually start to feel um uh they're 54:48 saying even if in this transitional 54:50 stage as you become more heart-c 54:52 centered, even if you try to be hurtful 54:54 to it, you will feel the hurt within 54:56 yourself because you're actually hurting 54:58 yourself at the same time. Uh they're 55:00 saying this is a very important thing to 55:02 to bring forward. Um so yes. Yeah, 55:05 definitely. They're very happy you you 55:07 suggested that too. [laughter] 55:09 >> Brilliant. And I'd also like to ask 55:11 David because you know this is 55:12 beautiful. our future evolution, our 55:14 trajectory is is so exciting and 55:16 wonderful. But we're also aware that 55:18 we're um experiencing the biggest El 55:21 Nino that we've had since 1877. There 55:24 are many people going through extreme 55:26 weather situations of floods and 55:28 hurricans and fires. And of course, when 55:30 you're caught up in those extremes, it's 55:32 much harder to keep your your 55:34 equilibrium and your own sense of peace 55:36 because of panic and survival. And so, 55:40 what advice would you give to people in 55:43 those extreme circumstances? And what 55:45 can we as humanity do to calm that down? 55:49 And is that happening because the earth 55:51 is going through her own rebirth? Is it 55:53 also happening because it's still a 55:54 reflection of our own turbulence in our 55:57 consciousness? 55:59 What can you share that would be helpful 56:01 for people in those extremes? 56:03 >> Sure. So my higher self, is there 56:05 anything you'd like to share on this? 56:06 Yeah, it's quite again quite excited to 56:09 come forward. So um this is interesting. 56:12 So there's uh my higher self and there's 56:14 a sort of consciousness which is 56:18 um all I can describe at the moment. my 56:20 higher self is this the the conscious 56:22 quality of of um 56:26 uh how could I say 56:29 it's like the living quality that of of 56:32 the aspect of the earth that dwells and 56:34 act and and is um active in volcanoes. 56:38 >> Yeah. 56:38 >> So yeah and so is that correct my higher 56:41 self? Okay. Yes. It's it's kind of a 56:43 very fiery trans transformational um 56:47 transducing energy I guess you could say 56:49 as well. Um and so what's being said 56:52 here okay go ahead my high self. So in 56:56 the flux of everything that's happening 56:58 my high self is saying you are 56:59 experiencing the outpouring of the old. 57:02 Now, a lot of this old is so congealed 57:05 and can so congested down in certain 57:07 pockets. It needs to literally be broken 57:09 apart because it's so sort of solidified 57:11 and stagnant. 57:13 And they're saying this is part of the 57:15 the waves coming in from outside. It's 57:17 part of the waves coming from the center 57:19 of the earth and your your soul, the 57:21 sun, uh coming from there and from each 57:23 of us collectively as well. And so 57:26 they're saying these are very densified, 57:28 very ancient, very old pockets of of you 57:31 know, they're saying in what you human 57:33 terms might call yuck, you know, but 57:36 it's just a collection of everything 57:38 that has been outpoured of a negative 57:40 orientation or a negative polarity 57:43 that's collected and they're saying this 57:45 does have to come out. Now they're 57:46 saying you have averted many many 57:48 significant disasters because of the 57:50 work that you've been doing as humanity. 57:52 They said they want to make that very 57:54 very clear. Now they're saying there is 57:56 another aspect of this as well which um 57:59 they are able to do and they have done 58:00 many times as well and we I believe they 58:03 mentioned this uh when we spoke before 58:06 and that is the fact that if you 58:07 consider a timeline and on that timeline 58:10 is a blip here where some very 58:11 significant event is going to take place 58:14 um in order to best serve humanity's 58:17 process they can wrap the timeline 58:19 around that event back on track again. 58:22 So they can literally move it around. Um 58:25 and they said there are several major 58:26 events which have been averted that way. 58:30 And so again they said they mentioned 58:31 before that you were in good hands 58:33 overseeing this and this is part of what 58:35 we're able to do. And so you know it's 58:38 uh so what happens is what is necessary 58:42 um as part of the process. But there are 58:44 other things which are incidental which 58:46 are not necessary would actually set 58:48 humanity back a little bit. they have 58:50 the ability and permission um from you 58:53 know from source intelligence to wrap us 58:56 around those timelines and move us past 58:58 it with and we won't even know that it 59:00 was even going to occur. So um they're 59:03 saying there there are seven major 59:05 events that that have been already 59:07 averted quite simply and elegantly. We 59:09 don't even know that they were going to 59:11 happen or that they were going to be 59:12 there. Um you can you can call it 59:16 folding around uh timelines whatever you 59:19 wish to call them but they're saying 59:20 they have um the teams that are handling 59:23 this multi-dimensional teams are it's 59:25 it's second nature to them to be able to 59:28 you know um they're saying in your terms 59:31 engineer time as as they as they wish 59:33 to. But they're saying on the side of 59:36 light they're laughing. They do it very 59:38 carefully not to interfere with the 59:40 lesson making and the choice uh paths of 59:43 individuals. They don't work to 59:45 interfere with that in any way, but they 59:47 will uh they can sometimes do it to 59:49 avert major disasters which will pull 59:52 people back and and muddy the waters. 59:54 It's a little bit like saying, let's 59:57 suppose you're winging through water, 59:59 okay, and somebody wants to just chuck 1:00:01 in a whole bunch of mud and get in your 1:00:02 way and it's like, you know, it's just 1:00:04 going to slow things down, but you're 1:00:05 going to inevitably end up, you know, 1:00:07 getting past it anyway, but it's just 1:00:08 going to make it a lot slower, a lot 1:00:10 more troublesome. You might even have to 1:00:12 check out and come back in and do it 1:00:14 again. Um, in those sort of situations, 1:00:17 they can just jump around that event and 1:00:19 then carry you on as you were basically, 1:00:22 you know. So, they're saying that that 1:00:24 does happen and has happened. Um, and 1:00:27 yeah, they're saying there are the 1:00:28 forces that have tried to mess around 1:00:30 with that, but it hasn't worked because 1:00:32 they're nowhere near [laughter] as adept 1:00:35 at doing this as the the light forces. 1:00:38 So, it doesn't work that way. Um but 1:00:41 yes, but just to say there have been 1:00:43 there has been attempts at time meddling 1:00:45 um you know from from different other uh 1:00:48 beings as well but those have been you 1:00:51 know um you know corrected and 1:00:54 everything is is you know is uh moving 1:00:56 as it should do. Um but you asked about 1:00:59 um what advice uh could be given to 1:01:01 people who are in those zones as well. 1:01:04 So they're saying okay so Mahisa would 1:01:06 you like to specifically talk about that 1:01:09 uh that aspect about you know people who 1:01:11 are literally caught up in those zones 1:01:13 and are being affected by them directly 1:01:14 as well. Okay. So my higher self and the 1:01:17 teams there are saying and source 1:01:19 intelligence is coming through also is 1:01:21 that immense compassion for those souls 1:01:23 who who volunteered to be in those 1:01:25 places at that time is a very difficult 1:01:28 task. they understand that especially 1:01:30 for loved ones and people, you know, 1:01:32 around them and with them. 1:01:34 Um, and they'll say some people even 1:01:36 agree to uh to stay in those situations 1:01:40 in order to release certain energetics, 1:01:43 you know, and that's that's a sort of a 1:01:45 soul-based agreement with themselves 1:01:47 that they wish to do that. And they're 1:01:49 saying you have to understand from their 1:01:51 perspective, you you're eternal. You 1:01:54 don't stop, you know. And so a 1:01:57 transitional point is from their 1:02:00 perspective um simply just another 1:02:03 another point in your everlasting path. 1:02:06 You know it's it's not a it's not a 1:02:08 although they understand the emotional 1:02:10 reaction particularly to those who are 1:02:12 left behind loved ones who don't don't 1:02:15 have that sort of so-called you know 1:02:17 high higher perspective not in a 1:02:19 derogatory way but simply because that 1:02:21 you know these teams see see it 1:02:23 everything. They they see the longevity. 1:02:25 They see you as you are. But for those 1:02:28 people who aren't aware of those realms, 1:02:29 who aren't aware of that how things play 1:02:32 out on a bigger scale, they really feel 1:02:34 like something has been tragically lost 1:02:37 and they feel the loss and you know all 1:02:39 the other things that go with it. And 1:02:41 they're saying for that they have 1:02:43 immense compassion for that sadness and 1:02:45 grief and sorrow that you go through. 1:02:47 And they're saying what they can say is 1:02:49 simply to say when you see it as we see 1:02:52 it, you will see it in a delightful way. 1:02:55 You won't see it in a sorrowful way that 1:02:57 you do now. And that is, you know, just 1:03:00 an unfortunate artifact of in humanity's 1:03:03 perspective as it is now because you 1:03:05 don't have the overlay quite yet of 1:03:08 those highdimensional perspectives and 1:03:10 you can see your loved ones. And I could 1:03:11 tell you from my own experience um my my 1:03:14 father passed away not too recently and 1:03:19 um I was talking to my to my mom and 1:03:22 sister one time and he came I I don't 1:03:24 normally connect with you know uh people 1:03:27 who have who are passing over and going 1:03:29 to next one you know I work with my 1:03:31 teams but he came through and and I have 1:03:33 to say I saw him and so he was so happy 1:03:37 he [laughter] was so delighted to be 1:03:39 where he was. He was almost saying, you 1:03:42 know, don't don't be upset. This is 1:03:43 great. You know, [laughter] this is, you 1:03:46 know, 1:03:49 [clears throat] 1:03:49 >> Yeah. And it was and that's the trouble. 1:03:51 So, it's not really a sadness for those 1:03:53 who make the transition. It's more a 1:03:56 console or just a help to uplift those 1:03:58 people who are who who who aren't fully 1:04:02 aware of where they have gone and the 1:04:04 state they're in now. And he was just 1:04:06 like a kid on candy. He was just really 1:04:08 excited. he just wanted to leave and be 1:04:10 on with what he was doing and and and 1:04:12 carry on, you know. So, I just wanted to 1:04:14 share that little personal message 1:04:16 because I feel if that helps in any way 1:04:19 for people because that is the way and 1:04:21 my teams are saying that is the way we 1:04:23 see it. You say you really are eternal 1:04:25 but because of your humanity, the way 1:04:27 that you've experienced life through the 1:04:29 lens of humanity, 1:04:31 um you see a very very diminished 1:04:33 picture of what life is really like. And 1:04:36 so everything feels like it's a constant 1:04:38 struggle, survival. Oh my goodness, when 1:04:40 somebody passes away, it's heavy duty. 1:04:43 And I'm not belittling anybody's 1:04:46 feelings they have in reaction. Those 1:04:47 are very significant for sure. But what 1:04:51 that experience gave me is that it 1:04:53 really helped me to better understand 1:04:55 from a one human going from that to 1:04:57 transitioning into out of body 1:04:59 experience so to speak and how elated 1:05:02 and free he felt and how excited he was 1:05:04 about that that process 1:05:07 but then at the same time how sad you 1:05:09 know my family members were that that 1:05:10 had happened you know as well. Um it was 1:05:13 a very a very unique perspective I found 1:05:16 and I it was one I I happily shared 1:05:19 because there are people right now who 1:05:20 are going through that grieving process 1:05:22 and you know who are going through 1:05:23 difficult situations like that but I 1:05:26 hope that that sharing is going to help 1:05:28 you in some way but the teams are saying 1:05:30 just if you can find it within your core 1:05:33 to feel and you can ask this in your 1:05:35 higher self and your core can you help 1:05:37 me feel what they feel right now where 1:05:39 are they you know and you'll you'll feel 1:05:42 very likely a very different sensation 1:05:44 of where they are. To help you better 1:05:46 understand that they haven't ended, 1:05:48 they've just they've just um und 1:05:52 disconnected from their human vessel, 1:05:53 their human environmental suit, and now 1:05:56 they're moving on to something better 1:05:57 and different. They might come back into 1:05:58 another suit and have another life and 1:06:00 and come back and join in the party 1:06:02 again, you know. So, and but when you 1:06:05 come out and you you you always see the 1:06:07 familiar beings that you always been 1:06:09 around and they you know that's eternal, 1:06:11 you know, that's uh it's always going to 1:06:14 be that way as far as I feel. So, yeah, 1:06:17 it's for the for that situation. They're 1:06:20 saying um they hope to offer some form 1:06:23 of information that brings comfort to 1:06:25 people in knowing that those who have 1:06:27 passed on um these are no accidents. you 1:06:30 know, people have chosen to be in 1:06:32 specific places. Now, for those people 1:06:34 who um you know, were meant to move out 1:06:37 but didn't take the cues um that they 1:06:40 were given to move away, there are there 1:06:41 is situations like that. They're saying 1:06:44 um and you know there is compassion for 1:06:46 those that get caught up in it, but they 1:06:48 again they are eternal. They get the 1:06:50 chance to come back in again or help 1:06:52 from a different way. But they're saying 1:06:53 none of them are sad or unhappy of 1:06:56 having done that because they they 1:06:58 they've their perspective has been 1:07:00 freed. They now have a very lofty open 1:07:03 perspective that wasn't confined by 1:07:05 their human vessel that they were in. 1:07:06 They can see the bigger picture now and 1:07:09 they're really excited about, you know, 1:07:11 seeing it from that point of view like 1:07:12 my dad was. You know, I'd never seen him 1:07:15 like that in normal living. You know, 1:07:17 that's that was quite a different 1:07:19 picture, you know. So, and I think 1:07:21 that's the that's the thing. It's for 1:07:23 humanity. We've always had this unknown. 1:07:26 Oh, you know, are they still around? 1:07:28 Some people believe that oh, that the 1:07:30 end is the end. And no, it isn't. 1:07:32 Absolutely. As as you not all the 1:07:34 audience, I'm sure. Absolutely. You 1:07:37 know, completely um uh in awareness of 1:07:40 that, you know, we are eternal beings. 1:07:42 We we don't cease ever. You know, we 1:07:45 just evolve and grow and we have these 1:07:47 experiences to have fun, to learn. This 1:07:50 one is a is a bit of a hard knock 1:07:51 experience because of the density we're 1:07:53 in and the the breadth of lifetimes that 1:07:55 we've had here cycling over and over 1:07:57 again. Um, but yes, they're saying from 1:08:01 their perspective and they say if you 1:08:02 would uh be willing to trust this 1:08:05 feeling that with inside you that 1:08:08 everything is absolutely okay for your 1:08:11 loved ones, the ones that have passed, 1:08:13 they are in very very high spirits. They 1:08:15 are very excited and they're in great 1:08:16 joy about what where they are right now. 1:08:19 So they're saying if you can take solace 1:08:21 and comfort in that then that is the 1:08:23 message for that. 1:08:24 >> Yeah it's interesting. I've heard that 1:08:26 from many people in you know over the 1:08:28 years. It's really interesting you had 1:08:30 that experience too. So, so David, 1:08:32 you've talked about this transitional 1:08:34 phase and I've talked over the last 1:08:38 couple of years about this very 1:08:39 accelerated period of of evolution of 1:08:42 consciousness because I see that 1:08:43 astrologically over I was particularly 1:08:46 drawn to 25 26 27 as are obviously our 1:08:50 evolution will go on to infinity but 1:08:52 these three years being very 1:08:54 concentrated we're in the thick of it 1:08:56 now. It's it's quite obvious we're in 1:08:58 the the thick of it now. Yes. And I know 1:09:00 this might be a tough question because 1:09:02 linear time doesn't exist and it depends 1:09:03 on the consciousness of humanity because 1:09:05 there's flux and flow. But can you give 1:09:08 the viewers any perspective on when this 1:09:11 kind of intensity 1:09:13 of evolutionary upgrade 1:09:17 will ease off a little? I'm seeing it 1:09:19 easing off later into although linear 1:09:22 time doesn't exist sort of later into 1:09:24 2027 and and and and even entering 2027 1:09:29 I'm seeing as being astrologically 1:09:30 easier than the density and you know 1:09:34 concentration of of events that we're 1:09:36 going through right now any perspective 1:09:38 on that that would be helpful. 1:09:40 >> Sure that's a good question definitely. 1:09:42 So my higher self and my infinite source 1:09:44 intelligence would you love to share 1:09:45 anything on that and my arterian love 1:09:47 life family the pleadians there as well 1:09:49 and all the Syrians have come in as well 1:09:51 so there's a whole group there's a whole 1:09:52 party going on right now um okay so um 1:09:57 okay so I can I can feel this sort of 1:09:59 just collective motion of of uh 1:10:02 consciousness sort of intending in this 1:10:04 way 1:10:05 um so they're saying that um the the the 1:10:11 pain. Um, again, this is not coming 1:10:14 through words. This is more energy 1:10:15 impressions they're giving me. And I 1:10:17 feel ah, okay. Right. I get it. 1:10:22 So, what they're saying this is not so 1:10:23 much they want me to experience this 1:10:25 energy they're they're sending right 1:10:27 now. And it's such a peace. It's really 1:10:30 peaceful. Um, 1:10:33 and in a moment they're going to uh at 1:10:36 the end they they'd like to offer a 1:10:38 meditation where people experience this 1:10:39 energy for themselves. But they want to 1:10:42 give it a little for discussion because 1:10:44 um uh it was it's a very good question 1:10:48 and they're saying if you feel the 1:10:50 stillness that is in this energy this is 1:10:53 the you in your core 1:10:56 and in this state you are non-reactive 1:11:01 but you are very responsable. 1:11:04 >> Yeah. which means that you decide very 1:11:07 intelligent intelligently from your core 1:11:10 how you wish to be, where you wish to 1:11:11 go, how you wish to go. 1:11:14 And they're saying, as they have said 1:11:16 before, I'm still feeling this energy. 1:11:18 It's really delightful. [gasps] 1:11:20 Um they're saying that 1:11:24 the greatest difficulty in the so-called 1:11:27 um events that are taking place that 1:11:29 people find themselves is they're not 1:11:30 actually being buffeted by the waves. 1:11:33 They're being buffeted by their reaction 1:11:36 to the waves. 1:11:39 And this is a key point they wish to 1:11:41 convey. And this is in a gentle way 1:11:44 they're saying um because there is no 1:11:46 blame and there is no judgment here. 1:11:49 Simply just to bring to your awareness 1:11:52 the aspects and qualities which will 1:11:55 help ease and bring off the the tension 1:11:59 and turbulence that you feel. 1:12:04 And they're saying once again, we've 1:12:06 used this analogy before. Imagine the 1:12:09 surfer and the surfer falls off. Does 1:12:12 the surfer have a choice now to react 1:12:16 and flail and get upset and get uh 1:12:19 embroiled in the rolling of the wave? 1:12:23 Or does the surfer choose to dive into 1:12:25 the wave and relax and come out 1:12:27 peacefully on the other side? 1:12:30 And they're saying this is a wonderful 1:12:32 but simple analogy of where everyone 1:12:35 finds themselves right now. And there 1:12:37 are no exceptions to this. They're 1:12:39 saying 1:12:42 and they're saying the waves of 1:12:44 evolution are will continue. They'll 1:12:46 rise up and up and up. But as your 1:12:50 ability to ride with them and relax into 1:12:53 yourself because the waves are not only 1:12:55 becoming externally, they're saying 1:12:56 they're coming from within you. you are 1:12:59 generating these waves yourself as well. 1:13:03 And they're saying the more you can 1:13:04 relax your mind, breathe rhythmically, 1:13:07 and spend more time internally inside in 1:13:10 this soft gentle energy of your core. 1:13:14 You will find that you will your 1:13:16 reaction to these waves coming through 1:13:18 will get less and less and less and 1:13:20 less. And then at one point you will 1:13:23 find yourself simply riding them 1:13:26 effortlessly. no matter what the nature 1:13:28 of the wave and they're saying this is 1:13:30 what they would like to encourage people 1:13:32 to do. So it's not so much a question 1:13:34 they're saying is the waves easing off. 1:13:37 It's humanity learning to ease into and 1:13:40 relax into themselves so that they can 1:13:42 ride rhythmically the motion of the 1:13:44 waves they generate themselves and that 1:13:46 are coming externally as well. 1:13:50 And they're saying that this messaging 1:13:52 that they've given today is extremely um 1:13:56 uh purposeful in leading up to this 1:13:58 point because this they felt that this 1:14:01 is where this this was going to um and 1:14:05 they're saying it's a very very 1:14:06 important question and it's an very 1:14:08 important for people to understand and 1:14:10 feel the answer. This is not a mental 1:14:13 process. This is a relaxation process. 1:14:16 This is a self-surrendering process and 1:14:19 they're saying there really is nothing 1:14:21 to figure out. There's nothing for your 1:14:23 mind to do in this. Your mind just needs 1:14:24 to take a backseat and enjoy the show, 1:14:27 you know. And they're saying this is 1:14:29 where this one me [laughter] 1:14:32 and I have, you know, I've gotten caught 1:14:34 up myself in previous times where I 1:14:36 wanted to mentalize everything, find out 1:14:38 the ins and outs, who did what, what 1:14:40 lifetime they're saying. That doesn't 1:14:42 really mean anything. uh you know it's 1:14:45 just that they're just the nicities that 1:14:47 people like to embroil themselves in but 1:14:49 it doesn't actually help you so much. 1:14:52 Yes, there are times when there are 1:14:54 certain things that you need to get in 1:14:55 touch with the emotions of it. So you 1:14:57 might get a conceptual overview of a 1:15:00 past life or something, but they're 1:15:01 saying don't go into flights of fancy 1:15:03 and go into all the details because you 1:15:05 will lose the lesson and you will lose 1:15:07 what's being shown to you. They're 1:15:10 saying just relax into the feeling and 1:15:12 the energy. That's the that's the 1:15:13 important thing. And just let it let it 1:15:15 come out. Breathe it. Pump it out with 1:15:17 your breath. And they're saying engage 1:15:20 with your higher self. Ask your higher 1:15:22 self to just just offer it up to your 1:15:24 higher self. Ask your higher self to 1:15:25 begin breaking it down, resolving it for 1:15:27 you because you are beginning that 1:15:30 motion of coming into your higher self 1:15:31 and your higher self can take those 1:15:33 workloads off of you quite easily. And 1:15:36 and what's meant by that is it's you're 1:15:38 not engaging with this thing mentally. 1:15:41 Um but the actual process of feeling and 1:15:44 purging your higher self can handle that 1:15:46 for you you know so we you know so if 1:15:49 that makes it a little bit more clearer 1:15:52 and they're saying so into a very simple 1:15:54 answer to your question it is all a 1:15:57 question of how much you are willing to 1:15:58 surrender to yourself as to how easy or 1:16:01 how difficult these processes will be 1:16:04 and that's that is the simple message 1:16:07 >> it's an 1:16:09 ultimately it's an inside job. 1:16:11 >> It's an Yeah, they're laughing at that. 1:16:14 They're saying, "Yes, it's an inside 1:16:15 job. It always has been and it always 1:16:18 will be." Um, and they're saying this is 1:16:21 where humanity is finding a little 1:16:23 difficulty because we've been so 1:16:24 obsessed with the outer world 1:16:26 perspective with engaging the outer 1:16:28 world, planning, controlling, pushing, 1:16:31 shoving, reacting to everything in the 1:16:33 outside world. And they're saying we're 1:16:35 new, we're moving into a brand new 1:16:38 paradigm where everything is internal 1:16:40 and everything outside you will fully 1:16:42 understand is a direct reflection of you 1:16:46 and all of us collectively. We are the 1:16:48 sculptors of it. It we don't we don't 1:16:50 suffer it. It doesn't impinge upon us 1:16:52 and it doesn't just happen to us. We are 1:16:55 actually generating it. And they're 1:16:57 saying that is a key point. All of the 1:16:59 stuff that is purging is the stuff that 1:17:01 we have generated and put in place and 1:17:04 it's coming off and they're saying 1:17:06 please do not go into self- judgment or 1:17:08 anything like that. It is simply an 1:17:10 experience where certain energetics got 1:17:12 created and this is the environmental 1:17:15 result. Now we're undoing it. It's that 1:17:18 simple. They're saying and they're 1:17:20 saying the more you can surrender into 1:17:22 yourself, don't fight yourself and don't 1:17:25 don't judge yourself. They're saying 1:17:27 that's incredibly important. Uh the act 1:17:30 of judging is is like an act of of you 1:17:32 know 1:17:34 um 1:17:37 it it's not seeing it as it is. It's 1:17:39 seeing it from the personality lens. Oh, 1:17:41 you shouldn't have done this or you 1:17:43 shouldn't have done that. It's it's it's 1:17:44 not like that. They're saying what has 1:17:46 happened has simply happened. Where do 1:17:49 you wish to go from here? Do you wish to 1:17:51 evolve and learn your lesson and move 1:17:53 forward or do you want to go in the 1:17:54 merrygoround again? Even they're saying 1:17:56 that is not a judgment. It's simply the 1:17:59 difference in decision making that you 1:18:00 have in front of you. It's always a 1:18:02 choice. And they're saying that is part 1:18:04 of way you will drop victimhood because 1:18:06 at any given moment you have the choice 1:18:08 to go in and say okay don't like this 1:18:11 event whatever's happened what do I need 1:18:13 to learn about myself that is emitting 1:18:15 and therefore sculpting this into place 1:18:17 that I can change it so I do not 1:18:19 experience this again. They're saying 1:18:21 that is masterful intelligent uh um 1:18:25 living. This is how the you know the the 1:18:28 the what we might call evolved beings do 1:18:30 it. It's how the masters do it. Um they 1:18:32 understand fully that their environment 1:18:34 is a direct uh uh sculpting of their own 1:18:37 emissions. And if they don't like 1:18:39 something or want to change something, 1:18:40 they change their emission. You're just 1:18:42 tuning the frequency exactly as you wish 1:18:45 to do it. And once you're done with 1:18:47 that, you want to experience something 1:18:48 else, you dial the knob again. you 1:18:50 change your emission and you resculpt 1:18:52 your environment and they're saying that 1:18:54 is that is the simplicity and the beauty 1:18:57 of where humanity is starting to come 1:18:59 back to you. who are learning this. Um, 1:19:01 but you know, they're just saying they 1:19:03 really wish to uh those people who are 1:19:05 struggling or kicking and bucking, just 1:19:06 be aware if you can just, you know, 1:19:09 trust in in the advice that's been given 1:19:11 from your core and from them to just 1:19:13 relax into yourself. Stop the bucking 1:19:15 and fighting and understand what within 1:19:18 you is generating the condition that you 1:19:20 do not like and then change it. You know 1:19:23 and again they're saying we really wish 1:19:25 to emphasize very strongly you are 1:19:27 victim to nothing you know and if you 1:19:30 are ever behaving as a victim you have 1:19:32 something more to learn because you are 1:19:35 there's something with inside you that 1:19:37 needs to release so that you can release 1:19:38 that victimhood and step more into your 1:19:41 sovereignity and self-empowerment so you 1:19:43 can sculpt your reality more cleanly 1:19:45 more better as you wish to as well. 1:19:47 >> Yeah it's really about mastery of your 1:19:49 energy isn't it? And it is I can feel 1:19:52 myself going through quite an 1:19:53 existential crisis when I [laughter] 1:19:56 I'm so grateful for my shamanic training 1:20:00 uh right now. And I've still got L 1:20:01 plates on with that. But it's it's a 1:20:03 profound remembrance of how the 1:20:07 indigenous beings, you know, the the 1:20:10 masters from the past really operated 1:20:13 through through life and uh 1:20:16 >> and it's beautiful. Yeah. Absolutely 1:20:19 beautiful. David. So, anything else that 1:20:22 you would like to share with us before 1:20:24 we close? 1:20:25 >> Yes, there is a um a little they just 1:20:28 wanted to have a little follow on from 1:20:29 what we were just saying if you wouldn't 1:20:31 mind. And so, let's start with that if 1:20:33 that's okay and then I'll see if they 1:20:35 have a a final message. So, they're 1:20:37 saying this is the difficulty that 1:20:39 humanity has embroiled itself by 1:20:41 creating and cultivating that you are a 1:20:43 victim to anything. You therefore feel 1:20:46 disempowered. you feel frightened 1:20:48 because you don't have the ability to 1:20:50 resculpt it. And that gets itself caught 1:20:52 in its own merrygoround, you know, and 1:20:54 that applies to so many aspects of life. 1:20:56 They're saying financial, 1:20:59 you know, health, all sorts of things, 1:21:01 you know, there's just it applies across 1:21:03 the board, you know, and they're saying 1:21:05 this is where and they're saying this is 1:21:07 where they'd like humanity to be 1:21:09 especially aware of catching yourself 1:21:11 where you are engaging yourself in the 1:21:13 victim because you want to be a victim. 1:21:16 because you want to be, you know, uh, 1:21:18 and they're saying this is not in 1:21:19 judgment. It's to help you become aware 1:21:22 of what you are doing to yourself so you 1:21:24 have a choice to consciously stop and 1:21:26 release that and move into sovereignity. 1:21:29 move into the ability to sculpt your 1:21:31 reality because victimhood is a 1:21:33 self-created loop of 1:21:37 self self-defeating 1:21:39 basically you know and and a lot of 1:21:43 responses you know I mean the whole 1:21:45 paradigm that has been c you know people 1:21:47 may not realize that the the the sort of 1:21:50 negative forces have desperately tried 1:21:51 to cultivate the victimhood genre 1:21:54 because it gets you to disempower 1:21:56 yourself and you can be steered 1:21:59 You know, and what the teams are asking 1:22:02 people is step out of all victimhood to 1:22:05 anything, anyone, any time doesn't 1:22:08 matter. You actually have never been a 1:22:10 victim to anything, anyone at any time, 1:22:12 in any circumstance. And if you find 1:22:15 yourself in that, it is a loop that you 1:22:17 simply need to heal and release and 1:22:19 discharge so that you can step more into 1:22:22 sovereignity. 1:22:23 And um yeah and they're saying that is 1:22:25 something they would really love people 1:22:27 to consider in their own lives you know 1:22:29 have a feel on it and you know and make 1:22:32 your choices basically as you wish to 1:22:34 go. So okay so my highest self infinite 1:22:38 source intelligence my octuran family is 1:22:40 there any message that you would love to 1:22:42 offer as a last yes. So they're saying 1:22:45 coming back to what they would like to 1:22:46 offer is just a short meditation for 1:22:48 people to feel the energy of that 1:22:50 serenity within. 1:22:52 Okay. So, we're asking everyone who's uh 1:22:55 listening and uh both of us just to keep 1:22:58 our eyes closed and just start gently 1:23:00 breathing. 1:23:12 And they're saying they're going to take 1:23:15 people through a very simple rhythmic 1:23:17 breathing process where we're going to 1:23:19 breathe in at the fifth dimensional 1:23:21 energetics of our higher self. 1:23:25 And so let's start with the rhythmic 1:23:28 breathing. And the rhythmic breath is a 1:23:30 breath that is as slow or as fast, as 1:23:33 deep or as shallow. And you play with 1:23:36 this for a little moment to get that 1:23:38 sweet spot inside yourself. 1:23:41 It's that it's that rhythmic breathing 1:23:43 that brings you the most joy, the most 1:23:45 relaxation. So you you might sort of 1:23:48 speed it up or slow it down and feel up 1:23:50 there's that sweet spot. You might go as 1:23:53 shallow or as deep and oh there's that 1:23:55 sweet spot there. 1:23:57 And so as you do that and play with your 1:23:59 breath, 1:24:04 you'll start to feel 1:24:07 this settling into 1:24:12 This gentle, very relaxed sweet spot, 1:24:16 this rhythm, this sweet spot rhythm that 1:24:20 is natural to you and it will change as 1:24:22 you evolve. 1:24:24 But there is a sweet spot right now 1:24:26 which is the perfect pace and the 1:24:29 perfect depth or shallowess that is 1:24:31 optimum for you. And you'll know when 1:24:34 you're there because your body will 1:24:36 really feel relaxed. Your breathing 1:24:38 won't feel labored. It will feel very 1:24:39 joyful and relaxed and it will feel very 1:24:43 rhythmic and it's your own rhythm. 1:24:56 Okay. 1:24:59 And so now it is asked for each of you 1:25:06 to invite in the fifthdimensional 1:25:08 energetics of your higher self 1:25:12 to infuse within you with each rhythmic 1:25:15 inb breath. 1:25:18 And you may at this point ask for the 1:25:20 assistance of your higher self 1:25:23 to help that infusion to help you infuse 1:25:26 with each inb breath your higher self 1:25:30 energetics into all of your body with 1:25:33 each inb breath. 1:25:36 And you may simply say yes to your 1:25:38 higher self now if you wish. 1:25:55 And so with each inb breath feeling your 1:25:59 higher self infusing 1:26:01 into your heart. 1:26:19 into yourselves 1:26:35 into your mind. 1:26:53 into your emotions. 1:27:11 And finally into each and every field 1:27:14 layer that makes up your human 1:27:16 experience. 1:27:32 And now it is asked of you to take just 1:27:35 a moment before gift will be offered to 1:27:39 you by your higher self 1:27:43 to simply sit and feel yourself 1:27:48 immersing into your fifthdimensional 1:27:51 higher self. Love light energetics. 1:27:59 Feeling the softness, 1:28:02 the expansiveness, 1:28:06 the gentleness, 1:28:08 the peacefulness, 1:28:12 the stillness 1:28:16 of the fifthdimensional energetics of 1:28:19 you. 1:28:25 As you infuse deeper and deeper into 1:28:28 your higher self and your higher self 1:28:31 into your body 1:28:34 with each continued rhythmic inb breath. 1:28:51 And it is always said 1:28:54 that you are beautiful beyond words. You 1:28:58 are love intelligence beyond any 1:29:00 description. 1:29:03 And it is asked of you to simply feel 1:29:05 this 1:29:07 as you infuse into this truth more 1:29:11 deeply 1:29:13 and more deeply with each rhythmic inb 1:29:16 breath. 1:29:25 And so sweet forms of love for that is 1:29:29 what you are in human experience. 1:29:34 A gift will now be offered by your 1:29:36 higher self that will help you more 1:29:39 stabilize, 1:29:41 feel more deeply, 1:29:45 and connect with a greater sense of 1:29:47 stillness. 1:29:50 and bridging with your higher self, your 1:29:52 source love intelligence as this one 1:29:55 calls it. 1:30:00 Should you wish this gift to be 1:30:02 integrated within you and given to you 1:30:04 in this moment, you may simply say yes 1:30:08 to your higher self now. 1:30:19 And you may start to feel 1:30:22 a deep, serene, blissful energy 1:30:29 beginning to expand into your body, your 1:30:32 mind, your cellular structure. 1:30:38 Gently bringing every aspect of you into 1:30:43 a peaceful and sweet rhythm of 1:30:47 stillness. 1:30:51 As if once a pond that was rippled 1:30:55 is now perfectly crystal, 1:30:58 still and clear. 1:31:16 And in this space you may start to feel 1:31:20 a new energy emanating from your heart 1:31:22 center. [clears throat] 1:31:27 This is from where this gift has come 1:31:30 from. 1:31:40 And this sweet ones is the delightful 1:31:42 journey 1:31:45 of becoming a heart intelligence being 1:31:50 should you choose to do so. 1:32:03 And sweet ones, before this meditation 1:32:06 comes to a close, 1:32:09 it is asked of you to feel 1:32:13 the deep support, the unending support 1:32:17 within you, as you, it is your higher 1:32:21 self as you call it. 1:32:26 which is simply the extensions of your 1:32:29 source intelligence 1:32:32 stepping down through different 1:32:33 dimensions 1:32:35 connecting into you and a human 1:32:38 environmental suit. 1:32:42 It is all source intelligence. 1:32:45 It is all love intelligence. 1:32:49 This is what you are remembering and 1:32:51 rebecoming. 1:32:55 As you release the old with ease and 1:32:58 grace, 1:33:04 enjoy this journey, sweet ones, 1:33:08 for it is a profound transformation and 1:33:11 what you are becoming 1:33:14 will bring you the excitement and joy 1:33:17 and bliss beyond anything you can 1:33:20 currently imagine. 1:33:22 And these words are not said without 1:33:24 purpose. 1:33:29 And so it is. 1:33:49 Okay. 1:33:51 >> [laughter] 1:33:52 >> That was beautiful, David. Thank you so 1:33:54 much. 1:33:55 >> You're very welcome. Yeah, I feel pretty 1:33:57 blessed out right now. [laughter] 1:34:00 >> Exquisite. So, just thank you for your 1:34:03 your wisdom, your gifts, this beautiful, 1:34:07 inspiring sharing. It's been profound. 1:34:09 And you know, I whenever I'm speaking to 1:34:12 you, I can just feel my consciousness 1:34:14 expanding further. [laughter] So, and 1:34:17 you know, I know many people listening 1:34:18 to this will will feel exactly the same. 1:34:20 You are you are just doing some 1:34:22 beautiful work in your particular puzzle 1:34:25 piece to help us along to see a a bigger 1:34:28 more loving perspective than we've 1:34:30 known. So, God bless you. 1:34:32 >> Yeah, for sure. Well, thank you. And 1:34:34 also the teams would just like to say 1:34:36 that, you know, for anyone listening 1:34:38 right now, if you are struggling to feel 1:34:40 or you want to get in touch with your 1:34:42 higher self, just do that simple 1:34:43 meditation. Just connect with your fifth 1:34:45 dimensional higher self and go even 1:34:47 higher if you wish to to your sixth 1:34:49 seventh and so on. But just you know 1:34:51 build it up slowly if you wish to and 1:34:53 get to know yourself as your higher 1:34:55 self. Build that relationship will 1:34:57 develop and you'll start to become it 1:34:59 emerge into it very beautifully. Um and 1:35:02 again uh one of the things they're 1:35:05 saying is uh a lot of people want to 1:35:07 make themselves become the higher self 1:35:09 really quick. They're saying just relax 1:35:11 that idea. There's no force involved 1:35:13 here. You are relaxing into your higher 1:35:16 self. You're not making yourself become 1:35:18 your higher self. They're saying it's 1:35:19 very important to understand that 1:35:21 because a lot of people make the mistake 1:35:23 of trying to make themselves be their 1:35:25 higher self and become and it it feels 1:35:28 laborious. It feels such a like a brick 1:35:31 wall is in the way. And they're saying 1:35:32 the brick wall is of your own making by 1:35:34 trying to force this to happen. Relax 1:35:37 into it. Give up the control. Give up 1:35:39 all that pressure. Relax into yourself 1:35:42 and it will happen. so delightfully and 1:35:44 beautifully. 1:35:45 >> Yeah. More yin, less yang for sure. 1:35:49 [clears throat and laughter] 1:35:50 >> Relaxation to sell for sure. 1:35:53 >> Bless David. I would love our sharings 1:35:56 together and I hope the viewers out 1:35:58 there have loved it and benefited from 1:36:00 it as as fully certainly as I have. So, 1:36:03 God bless you, David, helping us along 1:36:06 on our journey. We're we're just deeply 1:36:08 grateful for you 1:36:10 >> for sure. Lots of love to you, Pam. 1:36:11 Thank you for facilitating this and all 1:36:13 the beautiful work that you do and the 1:36:14 the encouragement you'd give to so many 1:36:16 people as well and to all the people 1:36:19 listening and all the work that you were 1:36:20 doing on yourselves. Well done and keep 1:36:22 going. Definitely. 1:36:25 >> God bless. Thank you and love everybody 1:36:28 out there. Big heart love to everybody 1:36:30 out there. 1:36:31 >> Absolutely. 1:36:32 >> We'll be back again, I'm sure. Bye for 1:36:34 now. 1:36:35 >> Sure. Bye-bye for everyone. 1:36:37 >> [laughter]