Interviewing Richard Hanania on Wokeness - Transcript [EN]

Richard Hanania discusses the origins and spread of wokeness, arguing it originates from public policy and government data collection practices that later migrated into culture and institutions. He distinguishes between woke ideology and hyper woke zealotry, and explains how bureaucratic incentives and risk aversion in corporations and government amplified these ideas. The conversation delves into how woke policies affect policy areas like Title IX, civil rights jurisprudence, and military recruiting, while debating perceptions of who holds power and how media and education shape belief. The panel also contrasts conservative and liberal responses, touching on conspiracy thinking, cultural trends, and potential futures for wokish influence. The discussion emphasizes practical implications and possible shifts in policy and public opinion over time.