0:00 Can I tell you a story I remember of you? >> Oh god. Okay. >> You had just come from meeting Bill Cosby before before any of that stuff came out. >> Yeah. >> And he was >> not nice to you and it had really hurt your feelings and you were talking about it that he was being that he had been rude to you and mean to you. >> Yeah. He said comedy is about likability and I can tell immediately you're not likable. [singing] >> [music] >> ICE recently admitted to detaining immigrant children longer than the recommended limit. This past August to September, ICE held about 400 children for over 20 days. Advocates reported conditions such as contaminated food, lack of medical care, and insufficient legal counsel. I read about this nightmare on Ground News, which is today's sponsor. Ground News shows a breakdown of publications reporting on a story, including a factuality score in which way each publisher tends to lean politically. It is not about completely 1:01 eliminating bias here, folks. It's about trying to make you aware [music] of the potential biases of different publications so you can consider them as you analyze an event or the issue. I was at least glad to see that 98% of the 69 publications reporting on this [music] story were rated high factuality because the last thing we need is more misinformation on this issue. Use the link in the description or go to groundnews.com/husten to get 40% off the [music] Ground News Vantage plan. The same one that we use right here on HMDK. My discount makes it just five bucks a month for unlimited access. Let's cut through the noise together at groundnews.com/husten. You know what's really great? When we see each other, >> what >> you usually speak to me in Uru. >> Yeah. >> Which is awesome. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Udu is a beautiful language. So much of the Udu language is it's so poetic and beautiful. Yearning is not a thing here. They call it sing in English. >> Yes. >> Do you do you know what I mean? >> What do you mean yearning? >> Yearning which is like which is like deep passion through language. >> Yeah. >> So did you have this growing up? Did 2:02 they like shy and guzzles? >> Not very. They were not like super big into I mean we heard guzzles like you know we heard like >> But you don't have any po like your dad doesn't have any poems that he like spits every once. >> No. Mom was more into them, but not not really. We're not really like a >> My dad wanted me to play one for you. You don't have one? >> Oh, please. >> You got to keep one in the cut, bro. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is this Is this your dad's recording? >> Yeah. He knows that I'm interviewing you. And he was like, ask him what his favorite sher poem is. Cuz your family's from Karachi or Islamabad? >> Karachi. >> Yeah. He was like, they for sure will know. I was like, I'll ask. >> I'm not from a cultured family. >> Here we go. 2:47 I mean, how would you even translate that to English? I've tried so hard to get you >> so intensely. I have tried for you to be mine that every particle [music] >> Yeah. >> has conspired that you meet me. >> Yeah. >> Or that we meet. >> Yeah. That sounds beautiful. >> Come on, bro. >> And [laughter] that's before the first date. >> That's before the first kid. This is metaphors. All these poets were so >> dramatic. Yeah, [laughter] >> I love it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like me and all these people were like it's really really beautiful. >> You only reason why I was asking you this is about the poetry thing specifically. So this is going to come out when your special comes out. So much of comedy I don't know if you've ever done this when you're tagging a joke is you need to find alt words to describe something. >> Yes. Yes. >> And I realized somewhere deep in my subconscious I was like Udu is already doing that. >> It's amazing that you speak it so well. It's >> I don't I don't speak it well. I mean I speak it like >> you speak it pretty well. You do. Um, so in the special you talk about how during co you watch literally every movie from the 80s. >> Yeah. 3:44 >> What I find that's interesting about watching these movies is um the things that were important that that are important now were not as important then. So like right now if you're doing a movie with a bad guy the notes you get are always going to be why is he a bad guy? What's his psychology? What's behind it >> there? You don't really need to know it. Bad guys could just be bad guys. And I think that there is value to that. Not everybody has to have an origin story. Like some people are dicks. There's no dicks. Yeah. I remember Back to the Future. I just remember the Libyan terrorist in front of J. C. Penney. And I thought that was so crazy. Just an crazy image. Libyan terrorist and J. C. Penney. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I go back to school shopping. >> They just call them the Libyans. >> Call them just. >> All Libyans are bad. >> Um I remember even as a kid being like don't don't love how that feels. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, the other thing that's interesting about movies now versus then is that the level of craft in movies was a lot higher. Even in bad movies, the camera work, the set design, the warmth of how it looked and felt, even bad movies 4:46 looked and felt great and felt like good professional movies. Now, I think, and I think some of it is has to do with the aesthetic of front-facing cameras, like Tik Tok has become such a thing, right? >> Movies are very flat now. They're shot very flat. The color palettes are very similar. They're just not as like warm and dynamic as those. So, those are the things that really like jumped out at me. It was like stories were simpler back then. >> Yeah. >> And uh it >> and how rich and dark the color palette is when you shoot on film. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, >> you get these really beautiful like blacks and crushed. >> How was How was your movie? How >> great. It was super fun. Oh, it was so fun. And I'm We were We're doing it with young kids that are in their 20s. There's nothing better than that. >> Because what's what's the premise? >> What's it called? No, you told me the premise. best. It's a Bollywood dance contest. Best of the best. >> Yeah. Which is like a real dance competition that happens where like hundreds of thousands of kids like compete. It was awesome. >> And were these kids like really good dancers? >> They're [ __ ] incredible. >> That's great. 5:39 >> They're [ __ ] incredible. Back flips. It was like an escape room meets Bollywood dance meetsing step up meets. It was incredible. >> So when what what what stage are you in? >> We're in edit. We're in edit right now. >> And how are you super involved in the edit already or you'll come in? >> Right now I'm letting Lena, our director, she's in she's doing >> Oh, yeah. She's got she got she gets 10 10 weeks with it and then but I did take your advice >> every week >> I did two things that you gave me the advice. You're like it is your job to keep the vibes good. >> Yeah. >> And you better bring [ __ ] ice cream. >> Yeah. >> Doesn't it? >> Sometimes twice a week I brought an ice cream truck. >> Oh yeah. >> It's really really makes a big difference. Every Friday >> have a dessert truck. And sometimes people like I said some people mess up. They get a coffee truck. Don't get a coffee truck. >> Yeah. Saying work harder. >> Yeah. coffee is saying work harder. >> Yeah. >> Waffles, ice cream, cookies. Get something like that. >> Don't have it be normal food because they've had >> pretty good food already. >> Be a crafty. [clears throat] >> Yeah. Um and then Yeah, you're sort of 6:38 the captain of the vibes on set. It's And it's something that wasn't valued until fairly recently, like that, you know, there was always like, >> yeah, this movie was hell and it was everyone was terrible to the actresses, but the movie is good, so it's worth it. And there are still some filmmakers who do sort of work like that. Um, >> I don't know. I mean, let me just say this. You used to run a show called The Meltdown. And one of the things you and Emily did and Jonah that was [ __ ] phenomenal. You subverted that expectation, too, by keeping the vibes loose in the green room. >> Yeah. Emily really >> Emily is >> Emily is like a vibe master. >> Emily is actually literally Meharbani. >> Yeah. >> She is her kindness and her warmth and generosity. It is her marbani that made >> made her thing >> that made the show so great. >> Can I tell you a story I remember of you uh in the meltdown green room? >> Oh god. Okay. >> You had just come from meeting Bill Cosby before >> before any of that stuff came out >> and he was not nice to you and it had 7:40 really hurt your feelings when you were talking about it. He was being that he had been rude to you and mean to you. >> Yeah. He said comedy is about likability and I can tell immediately you're not likable. >> Is that what he said? >> Yeah. It destroyed me. It was really rough. It was really hard on me. >> [ __ ] [ __ ] >> I mean obviously for >> for many other reasons. >> Much worse reasons. But that like because he knew in that moment that you looked up to him and that his cruelty to you would have a deep impact on you. He did that on purpose. >> Bill Cosby himself, obviously the Cosby Show, Fat Albert, you know, his books were incredible. >> I mean he was Bill Cosby. >> Yeah, he was Bill Cosby. Yeah, >> I don't need to. >> How did that happen? What was the meeting? [snorts] >> I did a a documentary. It was with PBS at the time called Standup Planet where I went around the world and I met comedians around the world. So, I went to India. Did got to do comedy in India for the first time. Went to South Africa. Got to meet South African comics. I actually learned about Trevor Noah through that documentary, but got to meet incredible I mean the Johannesburg standup comedy scene, Luis 8:36 Ogola, like there's incredible comics there that are still >> um monsters to this day. And uh one of the things that they wanted to do at the end of it was like, "Hey, you bring a couple of these comics from different parts of the world and you're gonna meet Norman Lear and you're gonna meet Bill Cosby." >> Was Norman Le? >> Norman Leer was the best. >> Yeah. >> And Bill Cosby was the [ __ ] worst. >> Yeah. >> So what comics did you bring over? >> Um we brought from India, we brought this amazing come comedian named Aditi Mayal. >> And how how was their experience meeting Norman Leer and Bill Cosby? >> Oh, they loved it. I mean, they got to do the Laugh Factory for the first time. They got to They met they Oh my god, this is [ __ ] crazy. We did a showcase at the end of it where they got to do a spot, but get But I got to like curate the show. And I was like, there's these two comedians that I think would be great on the show with you that I think represent like the breadth of what American comedy is. And it was James Adomian and Nate Baretti. >> How about that? >> Which was [ __ ] >> Yeah. I mean, >> I think I I think I booked it well. You 9:37 nailed it because like I was like they're so different. >> They're so different but they represent the genre in my opinion. >> Oh, I was meaning to ask you this. So, it's interesting. >> Movies in the 80s didn't have as much of an influence on me, but movies in the '90s did. >> And I noticed there was this thing >> '90s. Me, too. >> with movies in the '9s that there was this obsession with angels. >> Uh-huh. >> In Ghosts, the supernatural. >> Michael, >> you had Ghost 1990. Patrick sees Angels in the Outfield. >> Yeah, seen that movie. Kevin [music] Cosner, Field of Dreams, >> Field of Dreams. >> There's literally like the ghosts of >> I always try and figure out why these trends, >> the prophecy, the preachers's wife. Denzel Washington is literally an angel. >> Have you seen Fallen? >> No. [music] >> Fallen is another like horror movie with an angel. >> City of Angels. Nicholas Cage. >> City of Angels. >> What Dreams May Come: Robin Williams. >> I just saw What Dreams May Come recently to like research for a part. I love that movie. It's got some stuff that doesn't age great, but it's a really beautiful. >> It looks amazing. >> It's incredible. Yeah. 10:38 >> Yeah. Um, and to me, Robin Williams, you know, is the pinnacle of comedian. Legit comedian, stand-up comedian becoming a dramat dramatic actor. >> Totally. >> Like, you know, Michael Keaton's amazing. He did standup, but he wasn't a stand-up comedian really. I don't think in the way that >> Robin Williams was a stand-up comedian. >> Yeah. >> And then a dramatic actor. Although he did go to like drama school and stuff. >> Yeah. Growing up in Baklan obviously ghosts, supernatural, jin, jupakabras. Do you have any gin stories? >> My dad used to say that every night gins have a tea party under my bed. >> That's crazy. >> It's And he was like, you know, >> he did this to punish you or he just did this for small talk? >> He just thought it was very funny that I was afraid of the dark and I was terrified of the dark for way too long. And my parents at night would have me go get them water from the kitchen cuz it was dark to like train me. My dad played pranks on me constantly. >> He got this boom box and he recorded himself going like 11:40 and then he would hide it and be like, >> "Who's that? The whole family's here." And then he would record what a legend. What's her dad's name? >> Ajaz. >> Oh, Ajaz. >> He would write up a thing. He would he would record himself saying Kum and he did you hear that? He said your name. He didn't say anybody else's name. Just your name. So for years he tortured me. >> Yeah. >> Oh what a legend. >> Oh yeah. He's a >> Did you hate Do you hate him for that? >> No. I No. No. >> He was always always um he loved teasing us and he loved teasing me because it would get to me. My brother didn't care. >> Are you Did you have a funny family? You guys were all >> I have a very funny family. Yeah. uh an extended family too. Like it was always valued to be funny. Like that was certainly a thing in my family. And still >> I have a really fun family. Like big extended family is really really fun. I'm getting emotional talking about it. Like aunts, uncles, cousins, kids of cousins. Like we are a good hang. And and Emily says that too. Like when I did 12:40 my show in Toronto, I have a lot of family there. We went out for dinner afterwards. We went to this um place that had karach food. >> Oh, amazing. And uh it's just like a very loud, fun, funny, good time family. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I found that that is the thing that brings me a tremendous amount of joy and comfort as I've gotten older >> like uh having a fun big family. >> Yeah. And just what you're talking about what happened in Toronto. This is Gupch vibes. >> Yes. >> Just bay knee slapping. >> Yeah. >> Your uncle comes up to you. Chachas, kalas, this stuff that you kind of were like between our 20s and 30s, we're like, I gotta Simba has to leave Pride Rock, >> right? I totally feel that coming back. I totally feel that. I mean, we our big family, you know, my dad has four sisters and they all have their kids and all their kids have kids now. >> Yeah. >> Every Friday, we would go out to dinner with whoever, you know, a couple of the sisters lived outside the country, but then they would then they eventually moved home, but every Friday, my my 13:41 dad's dad, my grandfather would take us all out. So it' be a group of like 25 30 people sometimes go every single Friday we went to a restaurant and it was >> I looked forward to it the entire time like up until I moved when I was 18 or 19 whatever. >> That was my favorite time was just like going out to a dinner with my family >> also with your cous you had cousins the same age. >> I had cousins the same age. Yeah. I had like a good crew of cousins my age. My brother had >> totally >> my brother had uh like but his age were a lot of girls so it was you know he didn't have as much broing down as I did but and I'm still very close with my with my cousins who are my >> Oh beautiful same. >> Yeah I I talk to them all the time. In fact I'm I'm my I probably have a text from one of my cousins about the match right now. I don't know how it's going. This is love. There's a match going on and I'm not watching it. >> Okay. Can you explain this to me? What what is with the cricket stuff? What do you mean? So, you know, my brother-in-law's Pakistani. So, my family's from India. He's Pakistani. 14:43 Hardcore into cricket. >> Yes. >> My access point to it was all was always via India Pakistan cricket match. >> Yeah. >> Or it was always like India Australia or Pakistan Australia or Jamaica versus Sri Lanka. It was always that was the access point. But the main the main showdown was India Pakistan and I was like this isn't about cricket. This is about something else. No. >> And so I understood it. I I totally I was like I get it but I'm not with this. >> It's national pride. >> Yeah. I'm but I'm not I'm not with it. I'm like the only thing I partition is my hard drive. That's it. I I'm not buying in I'm not buying the premise. >> Well I think what was cool about India Pakistan matches that isn't so true anymore. one we were two of the best teams in the world and now Pakistan is not that good and India is the best team in the world so obviously that's it's tough India Pakistan m matches are very tough for me >> but it was also the big great thing about the India Pakistan cricket matches was our countries did not get along >> but the people did we're the same people 15:44 it's the same culture it's the same language I mean I know India has a lot of language we have a lot of languages but the national language is basically the same same food language same culture and so when we played cricket Okay. You really felt the similarities rather than the differences and I feel like >> there was kind of a brotherhood vibe to India Pakistan matches like I mean the streets. >> So it wasn't a grudge match. >> It was not hatred. >> Oh >> it was not hatred. There was real respect and those those players were like respected each other and were friends with each other. like there would be like heated whatever but I always felt watching cricket India Pakistan I would remember like yeah we're all the same people they're like you know you play Australia you can have like the like you were saying the DVD commentary >> against India you don't have DVD commentary everybody speaks the same >> when you play Australia it becomes Lagon I totally get it this is a way to like subvert colonialism and it's a it's a different thing >> I never felt like that those teams did not like each other 16:46 >> it is different now Yeah, >> like I don't you didn't you probably didn't hear this but India and Pakistan played last week and India refused to shake hands with the Pakistan team >> and I find that to be such a shame because sport and I have complicated feelings about sport overall >> but sport is the one time where we really can put everything aside and play like I think the Olympics are absolutely beautiful I think it's such a beautiful global thing where the world comes together it never never does that >> totally >> so I always feel like the sport you know sports Sports is the one arena where you could really be like all right let's really respect each other and and do this and be equals >> and the lack of handshake really was >> it breaks my heart bro because when I hear this India won Pakistan won I'm like bro the British won this is how I feel in relation to this you know this whole issue my dad would tell me stories about when he was a young man he could actually you could take a bus from DI from Aliger Muslim University he went to AMU he's an alumni and you you could he would visit cousins and stuff in Lahore 17:47 and Karachi. >> Well, the the the thing that's really changed that's really sad is in the 80s, you know, when I watch Bollywood movies, they the the big thing was there would be like Muslim characters who were also good guys. Like, you know, Amarak Barnon, that's like a Christian guy, a Hindu guy, and a Muslim guy. They're all brothers. >> That was always the thing. And I remember watching Bollywood movies. I didn't watch as many Pakistani movies actually because I've seen some, but they were lower budget. Bollywood movies were big and fun and >> right >> but it was always that the people of India and Pakistan are the same. It's the governments have issues but we're the same people. >> And now I feel like that's changed. I feel like there's um in Bollywood and I'm sure in in in Pakistani movies as well, Lollywood um there just feels to be a seems to be a lot of like antagonism and animosity and nationalism in a way that I think isn't um helpful to >> How did your family how was the 4-day kind of war situation? How was that for 18:48 your family? >> It was very stressful. Massive explosions could be seen and heard in Pakistan as India's army launched its strikes targeting what it described as terrorist infrastructure. Pakistan says 26 people were killed and 46 others were injured, calling the attack an act of war. >> I was talking to my friends a lot. I was talking to my parents a lot, you know, and there was a lot of misinformation flying around and I have family in Karach and that was one of the places that was attacked. So, it was absolutely really really scar. It was very very scary cuz >> it's the worst. It's It's been in a very long time. So those days I remember like you know talking to people in the middle of the night and stuff like my body I I as you talk about it I remember the feeling of what it was like to be worried for my family back there and also just the incredible sadness of what what's happening. I mean it's it's it's it's personal sadness obviously personal fear for my family but also just generally sadness and fear for it 19:50 really doesn't feel like any progress is being made at all. It's it's really it's really tough also because India is so much more powerful than Pakistan you know in terms of [snorts] >> I mean economically and cultural impact and all that stuff. I mean India is doing really really well and Pakistan's had challenges. >> Do you you're a US citizen now, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You've talked about this. Um >> yeah, I am. I used to be like I'm a citizen now. They can't kick me out. >> I think they can kick [laughter] me out. >> I think that's changed. >> Well, you you do the whole story. You you this is this is one of your iconic bits bits that you I I've seen you do in standup, but now you brought it into the hour which was your your big meeting, >> your immigration meeting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Or or or um it was your citizenship meeting. >> My Yeah. It's um I I've I'd done that bit here and there for years. That's really the o only bit that I think is in there, I think. But I never put it on anything and I just felt like, oh, it 20:51 feels like the right time to be sort of talking about stuff like this. I wanted it in the special say I'm an immigrant and I belong here you know >> without saying that directly. So that's why I put that story in and I put it in really really towards the end of end of the set because I wanted >> I would hope people watch it and like oh I like this guy and at the end you know have that I don't know I don't know if anything does anything anymore but um I it was important to me to to have that story in there. >> Yeah. You know, my favorite part of the bit is when you go they go, "So, how do your parents feel about the fact that you'll raise your kids Christian?" >> Yeah. >> And then you're like, "They're not going to be happy, but I love Jesus so much." >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I I I really like it, too. I just feels really um it speaks to the fear that we all have always lived with. And the fear that fear is like bigger now than it's ever been. I mean, you're born here. You still you obviously feel the h [sighs] it's not great for us right 21:51 now. >> Yeah. But I think you know I got to I don't know if you're familiar with Zakar Khan the comedian um from India. He's incredible. Absolutely. Incredible comedian. Didn't he sell out Manu? >> He sold out MSG and I got to open for him and I got to see him do his act. Bro, this is it's something you haven't seen before. It's basically like Javad poetry meets like Ray Romano family storytelling meets Mike Burbiglia meets >> like it's incredible hour available anywhere. He's got several hours, but they're on Amazon. But it's it was it showed me um no matter what is happening politically in the world, comedy and the use of language, >> it's a it's a very powerful art form in and of itself. I whether it changes anything or not is is >> No, no, no. I do think it matters in and of itself. >> I think it matters in and of itself also because it's people speaking directly to an audience. There isn't like a thing of symbolism or you just speaking directly. 22:52 So, for me, it's also been um a real bummer to see so much of comedy uh being divisive right now. And it's really um it's just really upsetting. I always felt like the the the you know, and they'll say the job of comedy is to speak truth to to power, but you're speaking falsehoods in support of power, >> right? So, it's been a real it's been really interesting seeing and then seeing which comedians have decided to like align with that cynically to become uh more successful or whatever it is. It's it's really um it's it's it's weird to see. I was going to ask you now that you're you're a citizen, do you feel like an American? >> I don't think I feel like anything >> really. >> Yeah. Yeah. I >> like I've always felt like even though I'm born here, I'm like, "Bro, I'm a citizen. I'm not an American." >> No, I don't feel >> like I'm I have a library card. I have a 23:52 driver's license. >> Yeah. >> Like I have a blue passport. >> Well, I think your membership in a group is based on the other members seeing you as a member of the group and they're always going to be a significant percentage of members of America who don't see us as America no matter what. So, I think that's a big part of it. Um, yeah. Yeah. No, I don't I've never felt American. I'm very happy to be here. Obviously, it's a country [snorts] that made my dreams come true. I met my the love of my life here and I love it, but I've never felt American and I've been very aware of the fact that I don't feel American and that a a lot of the countries doesn't see me as American. Did uh did becoming a citizen here, did it feel unique in the sense that when you when you come and visit or arrive as a kid, you have like the Disneyland hat and you're like, "That's the Warner Brothers lot and that's where the Animaniacs live and it's this kind of rosecolored glasses." >> And then the longer you lived here, did you >> What was it like seeing political 24:54 discourse and society change? How was that for you? Well, I'll say actually becoming a citizen was very emotional for me. Like it was a very emotional day and it was interesting because you're in this huge room >> like maybe a thousand people huge room and there's a line in the middle of the room and people in front of the line are going to take the oath and become American and people behind the line it doesn't count. So Emily couldn't be there in front of the line with me. She was in the back and I'm there with all these people who are becoming Americans and it's all like there's little kids, there's like old old ladies, >> right? >> Some people are crying and some people are like on their phones while it's happening. There's [laughter] just like all different kinds of >> people going through it. But I I found it to be very very um I was very moved. >> Um >> I've seen obviously when you're you know I was raised in Pakistan. and I watched Hollywood movies. You have a certain vision of America. Streets are lined with gold, land of opportunity, land of 25:56 dreams, all this stuff. Then you come here and you obviously see over the course of, you know, now I've been here uh 25, 30 years, uh long time. You see the subtleties of that and you see the ways in which it's true and the ways in which it's not true. And I feel I it used to America is a country of immigrants and this idea there was always this ideal of we accept all kinds of people. We accept everyone and that wasn't always true but it was at least an ideal that people would pay lip service to. And now I feel like that's changed. I feel like people don't want to even uh pay lip service to that. So that's been a big difference. And I've seen through my mom's eyes how um her view of America has changed over the last few years. So to me that's like the starkkest contrast of how she used to think about America and how she used how she thinks 26:56 of it now. She just was like when she first came I mean they love it here. They live in Jersey and they absolutely love it. They have like a big group of like dy friends you know Indian Pakistani people. Yeah, >> they love it here. >> But when she first came here, she was sort of struck by the freedoms and um the lack of, you know, I mean, just that that there was support for everything. >> Yes. >> And then now she's she's like, "Oh, they don't want us here." And I think to her that's she's very very um tense and scared about all of it. And it's been now it's going close to 10 years that she's worried about this. So to me that's what's really heartbreaking is that she's like we already left Pakistan where will we go now they don't want us here here and I can't be like no they do because they don't >> so then where do you tell your parents to apply their thoughts and hopes where do you where do you >> I do say that you have to like you have 27:57 a good group of friends and you're in a a place that is safe and there are it's a I still think it's a small minority that's being like particularly xenophobic right now. I don't think it's like the massive like it's not everyone. It just feels like everyone cuz they are the ones who are loudest and in power. Um so I try and tell her that and and I tell her to not watch the news so much. She just watches she just follows everything too much and it's like this you kind of have to disconnect because >> okay so so I think this makes our parents crazy but it also makes them super funny. So I'll give you [laughter] an example. Do you ever have this in interviews where they were like uh they talk to you, they go, "Were you always funny or were you always political?" >> But if you grow up in a DIY or Arab household, >> bro, your your existence is political. Like >> yes, >> conspiracy [clears throat] theories, >> political conversation. >> Oh yeah, 28:57 >> this predates WhatsApp. Like >> Oh yeah. >> All of my friends. >> Yeah. and their families. They have deep deep conspiracy theories and sub stories and subplot. >> Yeah. And that's how we're raised. We're taught, you know, all our histories are so dramatic, >> which is what's also super funny. >> You're like, "Wait, what? His his nephew set him up with the CIA." Yeah. Yeah, he did. They're just great stories. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, you didn't even need podcasting for it. It was It was It predates all of that. >> It's We're We're a very passionate, dramatic people, and I love So I feel like it set us up for this time and I think this is why you have to see Zacher's act because what it what it showed me was no matter how crazy things are in the world and India certainly things are very interesting there right now >> he's created his own world in that room which is a very like important thing >> I mean I have to think that the stuff we do the the stuff we make has to make a difference otherwise there's really what is the point of anything but I should 29:58 I'll go watch I I I heard I was actually doing my play when he was I wanted to go see him, but but that was it. >> Oh, bro, it was a life experience. It was a life-changing experience to watch it. I should have >> um can we can we hard pivot into Night Thoughts? >> Yeah, sure. >> I mean, I've been vacasillating in and out of it. Um >> I love the title Night Thoughts. I love that run that you have. >> Oh, thank you. >> Yeah, because the idea of Night Thoughts, which is essentially, if you haven't seen the special, go watch it. But it's a collection of >> it let you basically do oneliners. >> Yes. You have so many oneliners that you're just sitting in your notes app. >> Yeah. I just was like whatever weird thought I had. >> What does CVS stand for? [ __ ] incredible. >> I wrote down so many of them and I tried different versions of them, you know? I was like, "Oh, this is like a container that I could put a bunch of like jokes into." >> Email regrets are great, too. >> Email regrets. You You have night thoughts >> all the time. I have day thoughts all the time. Yeah, I have day thoughts, but I find it easier to distract myself and do stuff. 30:59 But, you know, the night thoughts and and I've gotten better at it. >> You for real? You for real still suffer from insomnia or you just like you're just up thinking about stuff? >> It'll happen in the middle of the night when I wake up. It's like if I get up to go to the bathroom at like 4:00 a.m. It's 50/50 whether I go right back to sleep or if I lay there for an hour having night thoughts. >> Um, it's genuinely 50/50. Didn't happen last night. last night was good, but two nights ago I did have them. And I just I mean I've been doing therapy a lot and stuff, which I also talk about in my special. But um so I've gotten better tools of it, but I still, you know, it's like decades and patterns of thinking and my brain being a certain way that there's still resistance to like change. >> We have two wildly different perspectives on both therapy and pets. >> Tell me. >> I mean, for me, therapy needs to be litigated in live reality. That's my whole thing. What do you mean? I have a whole thing. What do you mean? I have a whole bit. Therapy needs to be like a whole bit. Therapy needs to be like a haircut. You can't tell us about it. We haircut. You can't tell us about it. We 31:57 have to notice the difference. have to notice the difference. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Right. Oh, I completely agree. >> Right. Oh, I completely agree. >> Yeah. So, that's my >> Yeah. So, that's my >> That's totally true. >> That's totally true. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think that's that's really good. >> Yeah. I think that's that's really good. But I do think I and I don't think But I do think I and I don't think everybody needs therapy. I don't think everybody needs therapy. I don't think everybody can afford therapy. I just everybody can afford therapy. I just know that it was know that it was >> I've also had a couple therapists that >> I've also had a couple therapists that have in the session been like, "Can I have in the session been like, "Can I add this to my book?" And I'm like, "You add this to my book?" And I'm like, "You got to be [ __ ] kidding me." got to be [ __ ] kidding me." >> Well, that's the other thing. That's my >> Well, that's the other thing. It's such a specific personal thing and a lot of people have tried therapy and been like not for me. Well, sometimes you finding a therapist that that works for you >> is very very difficult. >> But I but I do think that 32:30 self-exloration let me just say this bits aside it is important. >> Yes. >> But it but it has to be litigated in reality. I I need you to mom, dad, partner, whoever is in there, I need you to move the chains forward here. >> People use therapy and therapy speak to like justify being [ __ ] >> Sure. I hear you. I receive you. >> It's the most weaponized. >> But I don't have the bandwidth. >> Yeah, exactly. You don't have the bandwidth. I got you up. Setting a boundary. No, you're you're not you're being a [ __ ] >> You're being a dick. >> Yeah, totally. >> Um totally totally agree with that. >> Yeah, my boundaries. We're not going to DIY's house. Dad's about to die. You're going to d >> We have to go to Di's house. She's about to die. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Well, that's the other big thing I've noticed in the difference between like uh that that took me a while to be able to articulate is um we're in Pakistan at least and I'm sure India too very [snorts] very family focused like that's very important and the respect of elders I mean we have different pronouns for people older than younger than you. You don't call anybody older than you just 33:26 by their name. You call them pi or aa which means older brother. >> My son just met you. I was like this kale uncle. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. That's what you have to do. >> Um and I think that whole thing of like you're not you're just you're representing your whole family here. There's such a big focus on individuality. >> Yeah. >> That I think >> there are some downsides to that. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can be so into what's happening in your own mind that it's solitary confinement. >> Exactly. And I >> But the problem with the other side is >> Oh, it's both. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Everything good in my life is because of my family and everything bad in my life is because of my [ __ ] family. That's the reality. >> I think you have to uh figure out balance. split the difference because here there's become this thing of like um there's such a focus on individuality and personal freedom that um caring for the society at large is not valued as much and I don't think a society can survive like that. I think part of 34:27 >> part of being a person in a society is caring for how you're >> so you're talking about empathy. >> I'm talking about empathy. That's >> empathy. Yeah. >> Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. >> But you know my hot take when I watched you do bits about therapy. >> What? >> You already have Emily. I do. I know I'm cheating. >> She's the checkmate to all of this. >> Yeah. >> Versus some person on a Zoom screen. >> Yeah. No, I totally have. >> Like her um >> she's she's got a PhD in empathy. I mean, she she was or is a she was a licensed therapist. >> She Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She went to like grad school for therapy and was a practicing therapist for years and now she isn't. But yeah, I mean I mean you know a lot of the stuff that >> It's so true. I talked to her about it. Night thoughts, you know, all that stuff. if I talk to her about it. What's your take on pets? That's different from mine. >> I don't want to I don't want to be offensive. >> No, no, it's not offensive. I don't currently have any pets. >> So, you talk about bagel, you're special, who's your cat. >> Yeah. >> And Rip Bagel and >> RIP. >> And as we know in 35:27 >> in many traditional Mhubs of Islam, obviously cats are >> loved and revered and we're allowed to have them. My issue with pet people um is the way you start that bit where you literally put bagel into your mouth. >> Yeah. >> And I'm not talking about carbs because you clearly haven't had any carbs in a long time. I'm talking about your animal. >> Yeah. >> Mouth to mouth. >> You don't like that. Yeah. I I I get that. I didn't I didn't really kiss bagel on the mouth or anything. I did not. Some people kiss their dogs on the mouth. I I'm not into that. >> I'm talking about a culture where here people will walk over a homeless person >> as they take their dog to Poptopia. >> Crazy. You could >> So I'm I'm I'm I find that to be a little ridiculous. >> Totally. I completely agree. Like if you write a movie and you someone kills 17 people, that's fine. They kill one dog. Hey, you can't do that. >> They're like, "This is not likeable. >> You can't do that." 36:28 >> Yeah. This is really unlikable. >> It's totally true. >> Yes. Now again I I I'm I'm saying this I'm not Michael Vic. I don't believe in no >> punishing or hurting them. But they are >> again this is where there's the the the the limitations of language bro. They're John Ver. They are animals. >> Well >> see how you got it his smile. He got it. Johnvar. How would you describe John Vart to Scott? >> Johnvar is like a beast. >> A beast. >> Yeah. I mean I would >> that's what Republican the Republican party thinks of immigrants. They go they're Janvar. >> Yeah. [laughter] Exactly. It's totally >> but I call Janvar Janvar. >> Yeah. John Janvar. >> Do you do you understand what I'm saying? I do. I will say >> they're in gangs. One of my >> They carry guns. >> If you're If you're back home and you go down an alleyway, they go, "Don't go down that alleyway." >> Chased by dogs. >> Yeah. There's there's dogs there. >> I've been ta chased by many dog. I was terrified of dogs until [sighs and gasps] not that long ago because I'd been chased by too many dogs on the streets of Karachi. We have a lot of stray dogs. We have a lot of like I think rabbit dogs. I will say I do really love being 37:29 with animals and I do think this is a very controversial statement. >> In general, I think animals are better than people. You got to stop with this. [laughter] I >> I knew you were going to >> I know you're married to a white person, but this is the whitest [ __ ] I've ever heard in my life. >> It's I've come to it. I've come to it honestly. I >> And I do a bit about this. I'm just like I get it. I understand this, but you need to know that the reason why you feel that way is because you're a piece of [ __ ] and your pet is too dumb to know that you're a piece of [ __ ] You can literally put a pet >> into a cage. >> I'll take that. >> You can you can beat them. You can deny them food and water and they will still come back to you the moment you come back from your trip. I mean, I I certainly think that's part of it. Part of it is the unconditional love, but >> radical acceptance even when you don't deserve it, >> right? That's totally true. I don't have to apologize to them or negotiate with them or or but they don't hold a mirror to me. >> They're being true to their own nature at all times. Whereas >> their own nature, they're literally 38:30 inbred. >> The genre of nature. >> They're inbred animals to sit on your lap almost like you're a pet queen of England. >> I My cat was a rescue. She was not inbred. She was literally the opposite. Like some someone [ __ ] her mom on the street. >> Sure. Oh my god. Why'd you say that? >> I [laughter] don't know. I'm sorry. that way. >> Don't say it that way. Here's what it is. Is that again, I know what they are. I acknowledge what they are. >> But do you have any pets? >> I didn't grow up with pets and I was bit by a dog. I was bit by a dog as a child. >> I did not grow up with pets. >> I grew up with neighborhood cats that I really really loved and I was the only kid who played with them. I thought >> And I love that cats are self-cleaning and >> Yeah, they are. >> And I love that they make you work for their love. That's very interesting. >> They do. That's why I love >> They remind me of my mother in that way. They're like, "Hey, >> you got to earn it." >> Yeah, you got to earn it. >> Yeah. It's not unconditional. >> Yeah. They bob and weave condition >> emotionally. >> Um I uh um what was I say? I did not grow up with pets. I would not have gotten a pet if it wasn't for Emily. 39:27 Emily was like, "We need a pet." Um I don't have kids, so obviously there's no real comparison. Obviously, I'm not making that comparison, but I'm saying having a cat, no kids, but having a cat did teach me a new kind of love that I think having a kid would teach you a much in a much much deeper and much more substantial and real way. I'm not comparing the two, but having this cat did make me love in a new way. >> So, I don't believe this, but my producer gave me this quote. So, here's a quote from a writer named Robert Bralt about pets. The difference between friends and pets is that friends we allow into our company, pets we allow into our solitude. >> That's ring true. >> Yeah. I loved I loved being with her on my own when Emily was away. like she was on my lap and she it was a it was a lot of good company, a lot of solace. I mean I really really she just passed away two weeks ago and you know she was 17. Emily and I have been married for 18. So they were truly you know it was always the 40:29 three of us and to me home was always Emily and Bagel because you know traveling all over the world suddenly I have to be in some other country for 6 months doing something >> right. So the only concept I had of home was the two of them. If the two of them are with me, then this is home. Um, and so it's a really like a big really big loss. Actually went and got her ashes yesterday and that was a horrible experience and in a different way than I had. I knew it would be horrible, but I didn't realize it would be. It was horrible in a completely different way than I >> wish you would have done a little cat janaza. That would have been cute. >> Yeah. I mean Yeah. God, >> that would have been so cute. Sorry. [laughter] I'm sorry. But also cute. >> It would have been a little headstone. >> It would have been >> little mom. I would have thrown down a little dua for big. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Of course, bro. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. So, so you've seen Jurassic World? Yeah. You've seen Jurassic World? >> The newest one? >> The newest ones? >> I have not seen the newest one, but I've seen all the others. >> So, here's fundamentally where you know 41:31 my son who you met loves them. >> He seen the original one, too. >> I have this poster up because of him. >> Great. >> And when he shook your hand out there, he's wearing his dress. saw the saw loves them hardcore. >> I opt out and I'm friends with a lot of people in them >> in this upcoming I I think it's now there's there's been three or four Jurassic Worlds. >> Yeah. >> Which they return back to Nublar >> and they basically are like let's run it back. >> Yeah. Yeah. Let's do this again. >> I know we [ __ ] it [snorts] up but let's run it back. And they bring back Dr. Woo, Asian dude from 1992. They bring him back and he's like let me just keep breeding this. I think I could do this. Yeah. >> Yeah, I think I can do this. They kill an FA Khan. It's [ __ ] up. He like dies in a helicopter crash. RP. >> I remember. I saw that. >> Yeah. But a running motif in these Jurassic World movies is now dinosaurs are here. They're not just off the coast of Costa Rica. They're not on Isa. >> Oh, they're like in our >> They're here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there's like in the cold open there's like the NASDAQ New York Stock Exchange 42:31 and then a [ __ ] pterodactyl like flies into it and they're like as the pterodactyls live amongst us. This is like a part of the cold open. So John Var are now here and they're John Var from the Jurassic period. They're from 65 million years ago. Then Bryce Dallas Howard, >> incredible actress who plays Claire, >> goes and is like, "We need to free them. We need to free the dinosaurs." >> Yeah. There's a big >> And that's that's the problem with it. >> That's my >> You're like you we should be respecting people more than animals. You're like in some way >> leave them on the island. >> Leave them on the island. That's right. >> Dare I say build a wall around the island. >> I completely >> We [ __ ] it up and let it go. >> Yeah, I I I completely agree. I will say if you ever get a pet, you will start to see not Jurassic differently, but you will start to see animals differently. >> But I've seen people in the the theater, [snorts] the moment she opens the gates and lets the triceratops out. >> Yeah. People were like 43:32 >> people are like, "We get it." >> Yeah. No, I mean I there's like >> in my that's where that is my moment where I know I'm not an American wonder cuz I go are you [ __ ] >> specifically American thing the sort of fetishization of animal >> to love a triceratops that much or to just to be like it's just a velociraptor >> I mean if you think of like movies dog movies they're big people love dog movies I mean John Wick the entire story starts because somebody kills his dog >> I think it's it's the understanding of real consequences notice how in none of the Jurassic World movies. Do black people run it back? >> Right. >> The way black people have a reverence and understanding of ghosts is the same relationship they have with dinosaurs. >> They're like, >> "Yeah." Does Emily have a haunted house thing or like, "Oh, let's stay at this cabin." No. Or, you know, in the 1800s someone was killed here. Let's stay here. >> No, she does not. >> Yeah. That's my relationship with simultaneously with Jyn and with >> Yeah. >> I'm not looking to go to those places. >> I I see you. I acknowledge your 44:32 statehood. You do exist. >> Yeah. You That's your area. This is my area. >> At the UN resolution, I will acknowledge that you capital Jin exist. >> But I don't want to be your town. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't need to visit or sleep here. Oh, you tweeted this. This was kind of crazy. >> Oh no. What did I do? >> Years ago, you had this tweet where you wrote um you were at a movie premiere with Tom Cruz and you wrote quote, "Tom Cruz is great at being a movie star." >> Yeah. What do you remember about that day that made you go, "This guy's a great >> It's hard to know what it is. Is it what he is or is it the people's reaction to him?" Because people say like, you know, the movie star when they walk in, it changes the room. Now, is it something in in inherent to them or is it just that we've seen them since we were kids? But he was he was there and so obviously everyone's looking to him. He's one of those guys that's like Tom Cruz all the time. You know, you won't ever catch him look tired. He looks directly at people. I know a bunch of people who've met him. 45:33 They're like some he went to have a meeting and the person who like, you know, gave him coffee went back seven years later and was like, "Hey, Teresa, good to see you." And they're like, "How the [ __ ] does he remember?" >> Uhhuh. So part of that is I mean that he's got a certain intensity that I think maybe in more intensity than any other actor who still consider who still plays like good guy parts. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So he's got this like appealing intensity which is tricky to do. You know there's a lot of great actors don't have it >> right. >> He does he looks at people and he's just like he's just good at being in the limelight. He's just good at like drawing attention to himself. He's good at making you feel good, making you feel like he's one of you, but he's not really. He's [ __ ] Tom Cruz. He's a movie star. >> Yeah. >> It's um >> extreme positivity. I did an act one at the Daily Show. Me and Clever did an act one. He was the act three guest. >> We finished the act one. He was like [ __ ] hilarious. >> Exactly. >> That was like whoa. >> That's it. There's Have you seen Scott Pilgrim work versus the world? 46:34 >> Of course. There's a part where Chris Evans look is he plays a movie star in it and he has a phone and he's like that's actually hilarious. >> Hilarious. >> That's actually hilarious. >> Hilarious. >> He says it twice. >> Yeah. >> That's from Tom Cruz. >> Tom [laughter] was with the director and was like that's hilarious. Hilarious. Like he would say it twice >> and so that's from that. Um but see that like that is a that is a movie star movie. I'm sure he thought it was funny, but like telling you. That's the other thing I've learned in my as I've gotten older. If I like something somebody did, I tell them. >> Who's a better movie star, Tom Cruz or Shah Khan? >> I mean, Shah Khan is a god. He's not a movie star. Shah >> Oh, you're saying there's levels to this [ __ ] I agree. >> I mean, Shah Khan is, you know, I mean, here's the thing people don't understand. >> Can I tell Can I tell you why his superpower is he's at a whole another level? We're not even We're not even We're comparing apples and oranges. Once again, the mastery of Uru as a language, which is you're simultaneously the biggest movie star in the world, which 47:35 is a very American individual thing, >> but it's the humility factor of I was I was going to say I've watched interviews with Shah Khan a whole lot and what he Tom Cruz will come out. He's a movie star shades. He's a movie star. Shah Khan is like, "Oh, I'm nothing. I'm obviously he knows that's not true, but that >> he's so confident in his movie starness that he >> actively downplays it. >> He's also, you know, just a very versatile actor like his his first he was the first like lead movie star guy that I remember to start playing like complicated bad guy roles. Totally like Kiran and uh what was there were two? >> Dur Dur was fire. >> Those two movies. Yeah. I think he was like sort of like a bad guy and that was really interesting. >> What people don't understand here really is what movies are to India. They're not to people here. I mean there it's like 48:36 such a big part of the culture and the people who are movie stars there are gods. They're kings. I mean the Bollywood movies are I mean you know you go you spend 5 hours in a theater that's your whole day. Like the reverence that people have there for movies. America has never had. >> Yeah. And it also being an amazing pastime. >> Yes. >> Still that's the thing that still holds the test of time. >> And it's it's it's about entertaining people. And you know there'll be like every movie if you look at like a normal Bollywood masala movie it has like action, drama, romance, comedy, songs. >> Every movie is everything. >> Yes. But then there's also great aur directors as well. >> Yes. Art films. Art films are great. Yeah. >> Yeah. And even within the big budget, Sanjaya Bansali is an amazing director period pieces. He's Martin Scorsesei. You think you you think of a big Muglazam. Hey, someone is doing Bharatium in a >> palace. Yeah. >> Sanila Mazali. Then there's like Zoya. 49:37 Zoya will just do these great like kind of artouse. Yeah. >> Almost like Taki relationship movies. >> It's dope. >> There's a lot of great stuff being made over there. Um, and the um, uh, obviously everyone knows RR here, but yeah, >> but that's tip of the iceberg. >> That's tip of the iceberg in my opinion. >> Yeah. No, I I watch I watch uh Bollywood movies fairly regularly. >> Emily and I watch them whenever I visit my parents for a few days. We we >> I love watching movies with my parents now. >> Yeah. I mean, I that's how I grew up. I watched movies with my parents all the time. Every Saturday we would watch a Bollywood movie. Every Saturday. Why do you think it still holds with us? Why do you think Bollywood movies when you're at Gur with your parents? Why does it still >> feels like home? It feels like home. I mean, it just feels like >> there's a warmth to watching a movie in your language with your family that it does not exist when you watch English movies together. And we do watch English movies together, too. We watch Hollywood movies together. But there's a feeling of like, oh, 50:38 our people made this movie for us. Even if you know I understand now there are differences between India and Pakistan politically I still maintain but the themes are the same people are the same people if you look at a Bollywood movie that's much closer to Pakistani culture than any Hollywood thing. So so I think there's like a warmth to it. It really just feels like um I I feel pride when I watch Bollywood movies. I'm like oh yeah look look at what we're doing. Look at what we're making. Exactly. >> Yeah. It's also a great way to like when I'm home with them for the weekend to close out the evening. We're like, >> "Yeah, >> here we go." >> And I have a I have a late night family. What's your family's bedtime? My family doesn't eat till 9:00 and my mom doesn't go to bed till 2:00 a.m. >> Same. My mom's nuts in that way. >> Yeah. It's like a real late night family. >> Yeah. >> And that's how I grew up. Late nights and now now I'm doing this play. Well, this by the time this airs this will be done. So, I'm going to bed later than I have been. But right, >> in my normal life in New York, in uh in LA, I've kind of started going to bed at 51:40 like 900 p.m. And it feels like I'm really letting my family down. >> Yeah, I'm doing that now because my kids are young, but oh, we're a 1 2 a.m. family. Super fun. It's super fun staying up late with your parents. >> Best. Oh my god. >> It's a weird thing. But if I were to say that to my quote unquote American friends, they'd be like, "Are you getting high with that?" Like, "What's going on?" to one or two. >> Well, that's the thing, you know, like uh we don't we don't drink or anything. So I have the family who at midnight is going to go find a place where you can get ice cream. >> Of course. GCF. Good clean fun. >> Yeah. Exactly. It's hardcore to me. That's Or go to like, you know, Disney walk and walk around and get >> That's one of the best things. By the way, I don't know if you've gone back to Pakistan or recently. I go back twice a year to India. It's the best. >> Where do you go in India? >> Bro, I hit it all. I'm a UN diplomat. >> Where where is your family from? >> So my family's from majority in Delhi, but we'll do Delhi. Then we'll do Luckno where my nani was before she passed away. Then we'll go see my wife's side of the family. They're in Indor. So 52:35 they're in and then we'll go to Gujarat. So I'll hit every little >> You have family from Gujarat too? >> Uh I don't have family in Gujarat. Her family is in Gujarat. And then I'll go to Mumbai and just visit like >> Bombay friends. >> Have you done a lot of >> going out at night? >> Yeah. >> Between 11 and 2 a.m. And it's not Waffle House ratchetry. It's like >> GCF, good clean fun. you're going to go get >> there's a >> food and dessert and goofy and >> I watch so many like >> there are like these YouTube channels of people like um who go to like street food in Karachi. >> Yeah, night markets. >> Yeah, night markets. And it's just so beautiful. It's like a midnight 1:00 a.m. and the streets. >> So yeah, me and me and Zacher, he's from Gujarat. We went to Sarafat which is like a night market, famous night market in Indor >> and he just put on his like co mask. It was the [ __ ] best. I got a jalabbe that was the size of my hand, bro. >> Jabies, a hot jalabbe the size of my hand. I could palm a Spalding basketball. >> I was going to name my next cat jalabbe, but I don't think I do. I Jabbe is like 53:36 my favorite dessert. Jalabbe. >> Okay. >> Rasalai. >> Yeah. >> Do you know Shahur? >> Yeah, of course. >> Those are my three >> favorite. >> I like that it's called Shahito. Like a little piece. >> Yeah, a little piece. >> But you're not going to have a little piece. >> But you also call it double kamita, which is >> Yeah. >> Double roti is what we call. >> Yeah. Also, this the culture of like mita or miti is not a it's dessert here, but dessert there is incredible. >> Yeah, I love those. Those are my favorite. Um >> those are my favorites. >> We've hit an hour, but so you know, today is my birthday. >> Oh, happy birthday. >> Thank you, man. I turned 40. >> Happy birthday. You just turned 40. >> I turned 40 today. >> Do you have any advice for me? Do you have advice for me? >> I'm 47. 40 wasn't hard for me. 45 was hard for me. >> Why 45? Why was 45 tough? Well, because when I turned 40, I was like, "Okay, double that is 80." People live to their 80s. You hit 45, double that is 90. Most people don't get to 90. More than likely. >> You just did the math equation. >> I'm like more than likely more than halfway through this whole thing, right? 54:37 >> And um and that was scary. It's also when my cat Bagel got diagnosed with the heart thing that eventually, you know, led led to the end. Um so suddenly those two things happened right at the same time like I turned 45 and I was like oh she's gonna die really rocked me really really shook me and then but then I came out of it I think having a lot more clarity of cuz I don't I love living I really love all this you know >> I really genuinely do I love everything about it >> I love that about you too comics generally we have a tinge of nihilism, which is funny. >> Yeah. >> But I think you have a zest and zeal for life where you really do enjoy stuff. Some of my favorite bits are just your your fascination and love for things. >> Yeah. >> Like some of your alltime bits are >> your horror movie bit. >> Like >> it's it's about the appreciation and love. >> I I I decided when I first was doing 55:38 standup that I wanted to be defined by what I loved and not what I didn't like because I do feel much more passionate about the things I love than the things I don't like. See, I didn't even say the word hate. Um, but I do I I feel very like I'm a generally an optimistic person. I do have, you know, it's good being with someone like Emily who also has that. She just has like a joy for everything >> and what is possible. >> And what is possible? Yeah. And she really like looks, you know, she finds the good in everything in all people and everything. So, so it's good to have that. >> She's an amazing Bobby. Can I just say that? >> Yeah, she really is. >> She's an amazing Bobby means like sister-in-law. >> Yeah. But everybody is >> but again when you say Bobby the relationship that comes to mind is different than the relationship when I think sister-in-law really >> Bobby to me feel I mean it is obviously sister-in-law but Bobby feels much more family to me than the phrase sister-in-law does >> of course >> cuz there's like >> Bobby you know like no one says sister-in-law >> my buddy my buddy Pashant is dating someone and he's like my homie >> and I call his girlfriend Poppy you're 56:37 Bobby. >> Yeah. >> And so when they're like what do you think of her? I'm like bro she's Bobby. [laughter] >> Exactly. >> What do I think of her? She's >> doesn't matter. She's in. What are you talking about? She's obvious. >> Um, but I came out of that period of 45 having like understanding what I want my life to be and what my life is. And so that's been that's been good. >> In a good way. >> Yeah. In a good way. In a good way. I got more clarity on on work, the kind of stuff I want to do, the kinds of stuff I don't want to do, what I want to spend my time doing when I'm doing work. but also realizing my purpose, the purpose of my life is to be with Emily. It's not to work or make things that I can be proud of, although that's all stuff I enjoy. It's not acting or doing standup or anything. My purpose is to be with Emily, get to know her as much as I can, allow her to know me as much as I can, and that's that is the purpose of my life. >> Are you guys going to bring back indoor kids? >> I mean, I really want >> you two together. You guys are great. >> Yeah, I want to. I I really want to. 57:39 Actually, it's it's funny you were you said that because when I recorded my special in the front row, there's a guy wearing an indoor kids t-shirt and three days ago he was at my Broadway play. He was like, "I was wearing an indoor kid shirt." I was like, "Well, you're in the special. You're going to see yourself in there." >> Um, yeah. So, I came out of that being that and now, you know, there's like little things like I had we got our cat in our 20s. She was for seven 17 years and now she's gone. And if I get another cat, hopefully by the time she's gone, I'll be like in my 60s. >> Whoa. >> So I think about >> Can I pitch you an alt on the cat name? >> Don't get Yes. >> Billy. >> Billy. Billy. Emily is a good name. Yeah. And I again with Emily >> because you can also switch hit with it. >> Yeah. >> Billy Billy. And like Oh, I get it. >> Emily would be Billy. I was like, it's Billy. It's like four L's. >> Yeah. >> It's not two L's. Yeah. Just hold on it. >> Yeah. Billy. Yeah. >> That's our N. Is being ripped fun? It It seems so dope. >> It is fun. It's weird that people on the 58:41 street say things about it all the time. >> Of course, people who know me, but also people who don't know me will say things about it. >> Uh >> I mean, it's the vasoddilation, bro. It's >> But like when I'm here in New York right now, the doorman of, you know, we're just renting this apartment, he he says stuff all the time, >> looking yolked, looking jacked. >> Yeah. Give me your arm workout. He's always about the arm workout. Sure. >> What I love about it is um I'm an overthinker. I I get anxious night thoughts and working out helps with all of that. It makes me feel healthy and it works out some of that energy. >> And you know, you you can't really think of you can't be inside your head when you have a massive weight that you're holding over your head. You can't be like, "Oh, I hope that email was okay." >> You have to be in the moment. >> Yeah. So, it's good training for me to be in the moment working out. I just like I worked out before coming here and you know I was I was in London for a week doing something and I didn't work all week, work out all week and it was 59:42 horrible and now I worked out yesterday and today and it feels great. I feel different. The endorphins thing is real. >> Sure. >> I love the feeling of it. >> Um, dude, this is a great combo, >> dude. Thanks so much for having >> Yeah, this is a great birthday and love to >> birthday. How exciting. way lay [music] your land.
